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[Lazureus]

Spoiler: creature code (click to show/hide)

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[CREATURE:VENUS_MAN_TRAP]
[NAME:venus man trap:venus man traps:venus man trap]
[TILE:5][COLOR:4:0:0]
[MODVALUE:5]
[LARGE_ROAMING][DIFFICULTY:2]
[NOFEAR][STOUT][NO_SLEEP][NOEMOTION][NOBREATHE]
[NOTHOUGHT][NOSTUN][NOPAIN][NONAUSEA]
[GENPOWER:3][LARGE_PREDATOR][NATURAL][SAVAGE]
[BONECARN][CARNIVORE][AMBUSHPREDATOR]
[NOBONES][NOSKULL][NOSMELLYROT]
[PET][COMMON_DOMESTIC]
[PETVALUE:500]
[SESSILE_LAND]
[EXTRACT:venus fly trap's digestive fluid:7:0:0] [EXTRACT_VALUE:100]
[EXTRACT_PARALYZE]
[EXTRACT_STUN_INTERMITTENT]
[EXTRACT_ANTIDOTE:venus fly trap anti-venom:7:0:0:100]
[BLOODTYPE:W]
[PREFSTRING:coloration]
[BODY:PLANT]
[BODYGLOSS:ROOTS_FOOT]
[SIZE:7]
[MAXAGE:40:80]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:LB:bite:bites:1:4:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:LB:bite:bites:1:3:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_WITH][SPECIALATTACK_INJECT_EXTRACT:50:100]
[CHILD:1][CHILDNAME:venus man trap spawn:venus man trap spawn]
[CLUSTER_NUMBER:1:5]
[FAT:0]
[ALL_ACTIVE]
[BIOME:ANY_LAND]
[BIOME:NOT_FREEZING]
[STANDARD_FLESH]
[HOMEOTHERM:10067]
[LAYERING:100]
[MUNDANE][NATURAL]

Spoiler: body code (click to show/hide)

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[BODY:PLANT]
[BP:US:upper stalk][UPPERBODY]
[BP:LS:lower stalk][CON:US][LOWERBODY]
[BP:LB:leaf blade][CON:US][HEAD][MOUTH]
[BP:RF:right root][CON:LS][RIGHT]
[BP:LF:left root][CON:LS][LEFT]
[BP:FF:front root][CON:LS]
[BP:RF:rear root][CON:LS]

As you can see by the code, I'm trying to make a living predatory plant that is immobile on land.
Problem is, it moves, quite quickly actually, even though i gave it the [SESSILE_LAND] tag.

I checked the error log and got this: Unrecognized Creature Token: SESSILE_LAND

Is this an invalid tag now? If so, what can I use to make this creature immobile?

[Greiger]

[IMMOBILE_LAND]

Is the correct tag now.  Same thing basically, new name.

[Lazureus]

[IMMOBILE_LAND]

Is the correct tag now.  Same thing basically, new name.

OH! Sweetness! thank you! Someone should say that is invalid in the wikki

[Heron]

It's a Wiki - if you see something that needs changing, you can always change it.

[Tormy]

Erm the wiki is correct actually. 
http://dwarf.lendemaindeveille.com/index.php/Creature_tokens

IMMOBILE_LAND   The creature is immobile while on land 

[Lazureus]

Erm the wiki is correct actually. 
http://dwarf.lendemaindeveille.com/index.php/Creature_tokens

IMMOBILE_LAND   The creature is immobile while on land 

yes but It also has this, which causes much confusion.

SESSILE_LAND    Cannot move on land.

[Tormy]

Erm the wiki is correct actually. 
http://dwarf.lendemaindeveille.com/index.php/Creature_tokens

IMMOBILE_LAND   The creature is immobile while on land 

yes but It also has this, which causes much confusion.

SESSILE_LAND    Cannot move on land.

Hm....perhaps Toady should clear this up...maybe SESSILE_LAND is obsolete or?
Ive never used SESSILE_LAND anyway, so I didnt knew about it either..

[Greiger]

I'm fairly certain [SESSILE_LAND] is just obsolete.  Probably just figured he would just clear up the wording.

I know I never knew what "Sessile" meant until I modded DF.  Thanks to the wiki I figured it out, but immobile land is more understandable for somebody without a dictionary handy.

[Untelligent]

Hm....perhaps Toady should clear this up...maybe SESSILE_LAND is obsolete or?

If the game doesn't recognize it as a valid token, it's probably obsolete. ;)

[Lazureus]

OK, well I put in the new tag. the game doesn't complain about it, but it does not work, the VMT's still run around at incredible speeds, instead of being rooted to the ground.

This is getting a little annoying

Spoiler: new creature code (click to show/hide)

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[CREATURE:VENUS_MAN_TRAP]
[NAME:venus man trap:venus man traps:venus man trap]
[TILE:5][COLOR:4:0:0]
[MODVALUE:5]
[DIFFICULTY:2]
[NOFEAR][STOUT][NO_SLEEP][NOEMOTION][NOBREATHE]
[NOTHOUGHT][NOSTUN][NOPAIN][NONAUSEA]
[GENPOWER:3][LARGE_PREDATOR][NATURAL][SAVAGE]
[BONECARN][CARNIVORE][AMBUSHPREDATOR]
[NOBONES][NOSKULL][NOSMELLYROT]
[PET][COMMON_DOMESTIC]
[PETVALUE:500]
[IMMOBILE_LAND]
[EXTRACT:venus fly trap's digestive fluid:7:0:0] [EXTRACT_VALUE:100]
[EXTRACT_PARALYZE]
[EXTRACT_STUN_INTERMITTENT]
[EXTRACT_ANTIDOTE:venus fly trap anti-venom:7:0:0:100]
[BLOODTYPE:W]
[PREFSTRING:coloration]
[BODY:PLANT]
[BODYGLOSS:ROOTS_FOOT]
[SIZE:7]
[MAXAGE:40:80]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:LB:bite:bites:1:4:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]


[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:LB:bite:bites:1:3:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_WITH][SPECIALATTACK_INJECT_EXT

RACT:50:100]
[CHILD:1][CHILDNAME:venus man trap spawn:venus man trap spawn]
[CLUSTER_NUMBER:1:5]
[FAT:0]
[ALL_ACTIVE]
[BIOME:ANY_LAND]
[BIOME:NOT_FREEZING]
[STANDARD_FLESH]
[HOMEOTHERM:10067]
[LAYERING:100]
[MUNDANE][NATURAL]

[Untelligent]

Two options that come to mind:

1. The body part with the [STANCE] token is what causes it to move, so if you remove the [STANCE] token from the PLANT entry in the body raws, it won't move, but it won't be able to stand up, either... I'm not sure if it's able to attack when it falls over, I never got my legless abominations to fight back.

2. Give it a really low speed, so it CAN move, but absurdly slowly. ...and by "low," I mean "high." As in [SPEED:1000000]. The higher the number, the slower the creature; there's an article on the wiki that explains why. Default is about 900, which is about as fast as a dwarf. The number I gave you should make it move one square for every thousand or so dwarf movements. Make it higher if that's not slow enough.

[Lazureus]

Two options that come to mind:

1. The body part with the [STANCE] token is what causes it to move, so if you remove the [STANCE] token from the PLANT entry in the body raws, it won't move, but it won't be able to stand up, either... I'm not sure if it's able to attack when it falls over, I never got my legless abominations to fight back.

2. Give it a really low speed, so it CAN move, but absurdly slowly. ...and by "low," I mean "high." As in [SPEED:1000000]. The higher the number, the slower the creature; there's an article on the wiki that explains why. Default is about 900, which is about as fast as a dwarf. The number I gave you should make it move one square for every thousand or so dwarf movements. Make it higher if that's not slow enough.

well with #1, there is currently no [STANCE] tags on any of the roots, and it is still deadly as all hell and moves.

#2,  I tried the speed thing but it makes them unable to attack before they are brutily slaughtered.

I've uploaded a video showing you that they still defy me.
Video

[i2amroy]

2. Give it a really low speed, so it CAN move, but absurdly slowly. ...and by "low," I mean "high." As in [SPEED:1000000]. The higher the number, the slower the creature; there's an article on the wiki that explains why. Default is about 900, which is about as fast as a dwarf. The number I gave you should make it move one square for every thousand or so dwarf movements. Make it higher if that's not slow enough.

The problem with that is that dwarf fortress has a limited speed amounts. So if you set a creature to move to slow, it says that the number has reached the minimum and resets it to the highest. This means that if you set the speed to something huge, like 1000000, you may end up with a creature that moves the same as a creature with speed 800. It also works the same way with incredibly fast speeds, with one the speed counter reaches the extreme lows, you ending up with creatures who are slower than the creatures with not quite so extreme lows.

[Deon]

I don't know. Here're my almost just the same plants from the Fallout mod.

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[CREATURE:PLANT_PREDATOR]
   [NAME:predator plant:predator plants:predator plant]
   [TILE:'P'][COLOR:2:0:0]
   [MODVALUE:3][NOT_BUTCHERABLE]
   [NOSKIN][NOMEAT][NOSKULL][NOBONES][NOFEAR][NOSMELLYROT][NOTHOUGHT][NOSTUN][NOPAIN][NOEMOTION][NOBREATHE][NOBLEED]
   [LARGE_ROAMING][FREQUENCY:2]
   [CHILDNAME:predator plant sapling:predator plant saplings]
   [POPULATION_NUMBER:20:30]
   [CLUSTER_NUMBER:5:10]
   [CURIOUSBEAST_EATER]
   [CURIOUSBEAST_GUZZLER]
   [VERMINHUNTER]
   [LARGE_PREDATOR]
   [NO_WINTER][MEANDERER]
   [GENPOWER:3]
   [PETVALUE:500]
   [GRASSTRAMPLE:0][IMMOBILE_LAND]
   [PREFSTRING:huge stems]
   [BODY:PLANT]
   [SIZE:7]
   [MAXAGE:40:50]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:6:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
   [CHILD:1]
   [DIURNAL]
   [BIOME:ANY_LAND]
   [STANDARD_FLESH]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10067]
   [LAYERING:200]
   [SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
   [MUNDANE]

It is not moving.

[Lazureus]

I don't know. Here're my almost just the same plants from the Fallout mod.

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[CREATURE:PLANT_PREDATOR]
   [NAME:predator plant:predator plants:predator plant]
   [TILE:'P'][COLOR:2:0:0]
   [MODVALUE:3][NOT_BUTCHERABLE]
   [NOSKIN][NOMEAT][NOSKULL][NOBONES][NOFEAR][NOSMELLYROT][NOTHOUGHT][NOSTUN][NOPAIN][NOEMOTION][NOBREATHE][NOBLEED]
   [LARGE_ROAMING][FREQUENCY:2]
   [CHILDNAME:predator plant sapling:predator plant saplings]
   [POPULATION_NUMBER:20:30]
   [CLUSTER_NUMBER:5:10]
   [CURIOUSBEAST_EATER]
   [CURIOUSBEAST_GUZZLER]
   [VERMINHUNTER]
   [LARGE_PREDATOR]
   [NO_WINTER][MEANDERER]
   [GENPOWER:3]
   [PETVALUE:500]
   [GRASSTRAMPLE:0][IMMOBILE_LAND]
   [PREFSTRING:huge stems]
   [BODY:PLANT]
   [SIZE:7]
   [MAXAGE:40:50]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:6:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
   [CHILD:1]
   [DIURNAL]
   [BIOME:ANY_LAND]
   [STANDARD_FLESH]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10067]
   [LAYERING:200]
   [SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
   [MUNDANE]

It is not moving.

Would I be able to see your PLANT body code, as if your plants are using mine, they still move around. I think I screwed something up in the body and its interfering with everything else.

Spoiler: current body code (click to show/hide)

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[BODY:PLANT]
[BP:US:upper stalk][UPPERBODY]
[BP:LS:lower stalk][CON:US][LOWERBODY]
[BP:LB:leaf blade][CON:US][HEAD][MOUTH]
[BP:RF:right root][CON:LS][RIGHT]
[BP:LF:left root][CON:LS][LEFT]
[BP:FF:front root][CON:LS]
[BP:RF:rear root][CON:LS]