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Frelock

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Re: Last Dwarves in the World?
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2008, 06:51:48 pm »

Ah, a possible problem with the world gen: what version did you make it with?
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Re: Last Dwarves in the World?
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2008, 06:58:35 pm »

Ah, a possible problem with the world gen: what version did you make it with?

40d, the most recent.
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Re: Last Dwarves in the World?
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2008, 07:31:34 pm »

Some one needs to make a community game of this. Now.
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Re: Last Dwarves in the World?
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2008, 12:24:41 am »

I've been playing around with the settings for a week trying to get this and it never occured to me to just cut down the number of mountains.  *facepalm*
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Re: Last Dwarves in the World?
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2008, 12:28:50 am »

I've actually been plagued by this with my custom race. It's become slightly less frequent now that I've increased the "max starting civilizations" from 1 to 50, and the max population from 300 to 5000 in their entity file.
For anyone trying to recreate this phenomenon, you may or may not be able to find certain hints for how to accomplish this in my post.
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Re: Last Dwarves in the World?
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2008, 01:28:10 am »

side question ( im still very new to anything past 33c soooo.....) does the "-------" next to a civ mean they dont exist anymore? 
I am pretty sure it just means that you are at war with them. If they didn't exist, they would not be written there.  :)
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Re: Last Dwarves in the World?
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2008, 02:44:26 am »

So, for those who had asked, here is the world:
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=551

A warning to you all. Adreomon is a very dystopian and backwards place, where there is nary a goblin to be seen and the elven menace more or less rules the world. Worst among them is the Intricate Nut, a band of vile brigands and bloodthirsty monsters who are responsable for the destruction of not just dwarven kind, but the small handful of goblins who apparently became obedient citizens of the Whip of Omens in their last days.

Make sure to check out the Legends section for the history of the last days of Ruthoshgoden, "Distantrope," which will be the near-mythical home of your people. Among those who fell in it's final days was the great heroine Ustuth Sacklobsters the Sculpted Flash of Chill, who in that one battle killed over thirty elves, tearing several limb from limb, before what was no doubt a cowardly attack from the rear fell her. She was the last dwarf to die in battle.

A true heroine.
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Re: Last Dwarves in the World?
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2008, 07:57:25 am »

hm...i was playing this world but i just got a wave of 10 migrants, although the dwarf civ has no leaders
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Re: Last Dwarves in the World?
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2008, 11:19:41 am »

side question ( im still very new to anything past 33c soooo.....) does the "-------" next to a civ mean they dont exist anymore? 
I am pretty sure it just means that you are at war with them. If they didn't exist, they would not be written there.  :)

It means that you're hostile to each other, because of babysnatching or no communication. When you're at war, it says WAR.
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Re: Last Dwarves in the World?
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2008, 11:57:25 am »

hm...i was playing this world but i just got a wave of 10 migrants, although the dwarf civ has no leaders

Really? That is... bizarre. My fortress. has been going for almost ten years and despite a massive wealth status, season after season I'm told that there are no migrants.
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Re: Last Dwarves in the World?
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2008, 12:13:34 pm »

If you hit C and there is a dwarf civ there, then you're not the last dwarven civ and you don't have the right history seed.
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Re: Last Dwarves in the World?
« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2008, 04:58:05 pm »

We need a DwarfGenocide tool that can apply this sort of setting to any generated world. :)
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Re: Last Dwarves in the World?
« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2008, 05:00:55 pm »

side question ( im still very new to anything past 33c soooo.....) does the "-------" next to a civ mean they dont exist anymore? 
I am pretty sure it just means that you are at war with them. If they didn't exist, they would not be written there.  :)

hey, Thanks Neo and Echo.  'Preciate it!

It means that you're hostile to each other, because of babysnatching or no communication. When you're at war, it says WAR.
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Re: Last Dwarves in the World?
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2008, 05:28:21 pm »

Try this: in the raws, there is a place for determining how many entities you start with. Go to \raw\objects\entity_default.txt and find these lines:

   [MAX_STARTING_CIV_NUMBER:100]
   [START_GROUP_NUMBER:10]
   [MAX_POP_NUMBER:10000]
   [MAX_SITE_POP_NUMBER:120]

Change those to far lower values and increase the other entity values a bit, and let the world run for a fair amount of time (1000 years or so should be a good amount, you'll need to set megabeast percent to -1). This should get you a much better chance at getting all dwarf civs extinct.
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Re: Last Dwarves in the World?
« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2008, 02:34:37 pm »

I have the same problem with my current fortress (40a) and made me finally register.

I have an awesome location: a volcano in a forest next to a river, pretty much everything I want, except I never got immigrants. I did have some elves trade, and I think humans showed up once, but after that they never showed face.

So after the imps killed off some deer, my dogs, cats and a few hapless thirsty dwarfs in a huge forest fire I was left with thee tantruming settlers that managed to throw themselves into the magma pool. Reclaiming had me with a fresh seven but no way to generate more population as fast as immigration would. Here's the seed:

[WORLD_GEN]
   [TITLE:MEDIUM]
   [SEED:1286059060]
   [HISTORY_SEED:3414849001]
   [NAME_SEED:461467538]
   [DIM:129:129]
   [END_YEAR:1050]
   [BEAST_END_YEAR:200:80]
   [REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1]
   [CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:0]
   [ELEVATION:1:400:401:401]
   [RAINFALL:0:100:200:200]
   [TEMPERATURE:25:75:200:200]
   [DRAINAGE:0:100:200:200]
   [VOLCANISM:0:100:200:200]
   [SAVAGERY:0:100:200:200]
   [ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [RAIN_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:25:251:503]
   [EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:25:251:503]
   [PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:12]
   [OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:1]
   [VOLCANO_MIN:3]
   [REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:260:1:1]
   [REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:260:1:1]
   [REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:1040:3:3]
   [REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:2080:2:2]
   [REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:2080:1:1]
   [REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:2080:3:3]
   [REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:2080:3:3]
   [EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:250]
   [RIVER_MINS:100:100]
   [PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1]
   [OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1]
   [SUBREGION_MAX:2750]
   [CAVE_MIN_SIZE:5]
   [CAVE_MAX_SIZE:25]
   [MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:25]
   [NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:50]
   [ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:0]
   [SHOW_EMBARK_RIVER:2]
   [SHOW_EMBARK_POOL:2]
   [SHOW_EMBARK_M_POOL:2]
   [SHOW_EMBARK_M_PIPE:2]
   [SHOW_EMBARK_CHASM:2]
   [SHOW_EMBARK_PIT:2]
   [SHOW_EMBARK_OTHER:2]
   [SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
   [TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:20]
   [TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:20000]
   [PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
   [ELEVATION_RANGES:2080:4160:2080]
   [RAIN_RANGES:2080:4160:2080]
   [DRAINAGE_RANGES:2080:4160:2080]
   [SAVAGERY_RANGES:2080:4160:2080]
   [VOLCANISM_RANGES:2080:4160:2080]

All there's left are one elf civ, one gob civ and a kobold civ in the civ screen.

I really like this fort, it just sucks I can't get a proper civ going.
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