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Author Topic: Combined project - The world of traps and attractions  (Read 130574 times)

Mondark

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Re: Combined project - The world of traps and attractions
« Reply #405 on: March 16, 2009, 02:07:13 pm »


But here's the problem: how do I set up the water controls? I want the controls to shut off automatically when the water's filled a level, and I'm thinking pressure plates will do the job, but I've never set up something so complex. is it even possible to shut off a pump/hatch like this?


That's actually not as bad as it first seems.  Try building a couple auto-refilling cisterns for practice.  Here's a simple diagram (side view):

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W    F~~~~
W    WWWW
W~~~~^W
W~~~~W
W~~~~F²
W~~~~W
W~~~~F³
WWWWWW

Where
W = Wall
~ = Water
^ = Pressure Plate
F = Floodgate

Just connect the pressure plate to the floodgate, and set it to close the gate when there's a the requisite amount of water present, making sure to set it so that the pressure plate is set to auto-reset.  To select a specific fill depth, just open and close floodgates 2 and 3 (F² and F³).  The water will fill up to the first open gate or the pressure plate, whichever is lower.

Then, for the real thing, just place the pressure plates one level ABOVE the maximum fill level, and set them to trigger at or above 1/7 water, that should keep the maze flooded.

At least, that's how I'd go about it.

Oh, also, shutting off a pump can be achieved by routing its power shaft through a gearbox, which can be disengaged by a lever.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2009, 02:08:52 pm by Mondark »
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Re: Combined project - The world of traps and attractions
« Reply #406 on: March 16, 2009, 02:12:01 pm »

The question is: Do pressure plates work in Adventure Mode? As far as I know, they don't, at least the creature-triggered ones; I don't know about the water-triggered ones, could someone test this?
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Re: Combined project - The world of traps and attractions
« Reply #407 on: March 16, 2009, 04:01:30 pm »

Edit: Speaking of which, does building constructions with metal bars use the masonry skill or something else?'

Blacksmithing, I believe.
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Re: Combined project - The world of traps and attractions
« Reply #408 on: March 16, 2009, 04:40:26 pm »

Is there any way of telling where these abandoned fortresses might be?
So far I've only managed to stumble in the mountain halls called "Hellgate of Suicide".
In there I found rotting corpses, and possessed elves and humans covered in blood.

And tentacle demons.


In fact, the whole world seems to be littered in all kinds of crafts and dead animals.
What have you done to that place?  :o


EDIT: Stupid question, of course the Hellgate of Suicide IS an abandoned fort.
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« Reply #409 on: March 16, 2009, 05:56:22 pm »

Argh, of course my turn would be coming up right when I have to be gone for several weeks.  Might as well just take me off the list now.  :-\
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Re: Combined project - The world of traps and attractions
« Reply #410 on: March 16, 2009, 07:29:24 pm »

Hey y'all.  Just wanted to point something out now that I've noticed this.

Traps work in adventure mode, but only if you go into the init settings and tell them to work in adventure mode.  This feature is off by default due to the unavoidable nature of traps as they stand (and the glitches that result from cage traps).

Also: Nice job, keep up the good work!
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Re: Combined project - The world of traps and attractions
« Reply #411 on: March 17, 2009, 01:55:21 am »

Count me in!

I'm thinking of some madman's dungeon deep into a inn's cave.

And I'll re-build the town in order to make it look more reallistic...
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« Reply #412 on: March 17, 2009, 10:25:36 am »

Traps work in adventure mode, but only if you go into the init settings and tell them to work in adventure mode.
Are you sure? Have you tested it? Because a bunch of people in this thread have. The option you mentioned doesn't do anything. It's also mentioned in the bug list. Even when set to ON, traps and pressure plates don't work.
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Re: Combined project - The world of traps and attractions
« Reply #413 on: March 17, 2009, 11:26:06 am »

On another note: How come every single fortress i have visited contain tentacle demons? It annoys me.
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Re: Combined project - The world of traps and attractions
« Reply #414 on: March 17, 2009, 03:23:59 pm »

Traps work in adventure mode, but only if you go into the init settings and tell them to work in adventure mode.
Are you sure? Have you tested it? Because a bunch of people in this thread have. The option you mentioned doesn't do anything. It's also mentioned in the bug list. Even when set to ON, traps and pressure plates don't work.
Weird.  I did it before, awhile back.  Must be a more recent thing.  Shame though.  Would've made for a great difficulty mode setting.  I'm afraid I missed the test bit.
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« Reply #415 on: March 18, 2009, 08:51:30 pm »

I'd like to be in on this, I'm thinking of a stone sphere fortress over either a bottomless pit or magma pit.

Edit: spelling
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« Reply #416 on: March 18, 2009, 09:30:50 pm »

why am I not on the list? I applied a couple weeks ago.
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« Reply #417 on: March 19, 2009, 02:58:22 pm »

why am I not on the list? I applied a couple weeks ago.
Probably because there's no way we'll ever get down to you before the next version comes out and we start over.
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« Reply #418 on: March 19, 2009, 03:03:40 pm »

why am I not on the list? I applied a couple weeks ago.
Probably because there's no way we'll ever get down to you before the next version comes out and we start over.

Which probably isn't so bad. Right now everyone's ideas are extremely limited, what with a lot of traps not working in adventurer mode (most notably, pressure plates). Right now all people can do is make smexy forts with interesting rooms and artifacts, or some dungeons with oddly placed levers using an 'everything or nothing' roulette sort of play.
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Re: Combined project - The world of traps and attractions
« Reply #419 on: March 21, 2009, 01:01:09 am »

On another note: How come every single fortress i have visited contain tentacle demons? It annoys me.

by far the easiest way to make sure that your fort is filled with nasty things to fight. other ways might include killing off your dwarves then succumbing to a goblin invasion, or catching as many things as you can, making sure they have names, and then caging them around with levers to release them. you could also create forts built by goblins, lots of them should hang around after abandon.

and test the fixing up a town town thing first. the word on the forums a few versions ago was that embarking on a town would break all the shops. there are only 2 towns in the world, as i remember, so dont break them. i was orignally thinking of adding a big underground sewer esque place to the larger town and putting nasty things in it for my turn, but breaking the shops wound not be worth it.
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