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[LASD]

Count me in. I'll dig into my little stash of meat I've saved in over a few HC runs.

Sadly, I'm in the middle of a HC Bee run, so it'll take a while.

That said, !!carp!! is still a thing.

Awesomesauce! Can someone with Whitelist power add "QuinnRi"? I'd love to help and can probably throw in some meat if enough people are going to participate. Hotstuff recommends level 20-25 for the new dungeon.

Done and done! Aaaaand there appears to be 3,000,000 Meat rotting in the clan coffers, nice to get some use for it. I'm apparently level 16 now, I'll level up and dive into the dungeon as well.

[Man of Paper]

I'll get back into this since it seems the whole clan isn't labeled as Inactive anymore. Just gotta get out of Ronin s I can actually do things. And open my 8th anniversary gift box.

Edit: Ah screw it, I'm forsaking Ronin and BIG! instead. Time to have fun again! And a pair of balsa wood socks. Woo.

[quinnr]

Yeah, if you haven't ascended in 11 days, have ascended once, and are below level 15, you might benefit from ascending Big. It's like a regular ascension, but you start at level 15, so it goes pretty quickly (the monsters are a bit harder until you break the King out, though). I did it so I could finally be above level 13 and do the sea stuff. Otherwise I tend to ascend super fast afterwards.

[quinnr]

The dungeon is almost certainly being released tonight, and a bunch of info has been leaked via URL manipulation (but not to most people, just a few who care to look). Let me say, one of the two familiars that appear to be being released tonight is SUPER DUPER COOL. Come play at rollover in a couple of hours (Jick posted in chat that he was aware that the stuff would be discovered before rollover, so I don't feel too bad about saying anything.)

[My Name is Immaterial]

I've been studying the Mall for about 5 months, and have published the data I've collected. If you like clicking links, this is a link you should click.

[quinnr]

I've been studying the Mall for about 5 months, and have published the data I've collected. If you like clicking links, this is a link you should click.

You...should totally being devoting this time to finding out what items are good for farming. D:

[Rhodan]

I went ahead and opened the new clan dungeon, Dreadsylvania. Have fun folks!

[Capntastic]

You...should totally being devoting this time to finding out what items are good for farming. D:

There's probably less than 10 items worth 'farming', and unless you're skilled up and geared out, your time is best spent hardcore chain-ascending as fast as possible.  The gear you get from that will have a lot of utility.

Edit:  Also, unless you have the Olfaction Tome from the Bounty Hunter Hunter, your item farming is going to be super inefficient anyways.  Unless you 'need meat now', you're almost always going to be best served by playing the margins while you ascend for skills/do daily stuff.  If you have to get some money now, just farm tattered scraps of paper.

Edit Edit:  Don't try to play the margins unless you know what you're doing (what you're doing is taking a huge risk [you will lose your shirt])

[quinnr]

You...should totally being devoting this time to finding out what items are good for farming. D:

There's probably less than 10 items worth 'farming', and unless you're skilled up and geared out, your time is best spent hardcore chain-ascending as fast as possible.  The gear you get from that will have a lot of utility.

Edit:  Also, unless you have the Olfaction Tome from the Bounty Hunter Hunter, your item farming is going to be super inefficient anyways.  Unless you 'need meat now', you're almost always going to be best served by playing the margins while you ascend for skills/do daily stuff.  If you have to get some money now, just farm tattered scraps of paper.

See, I don't have Olfaction yet, but the new familiar that came out in Dreadsylvania can sniff enemies, which I am pretty sure is going to be a Olfaction alternative, which could be pretty awesome. And yeah, I've heard paper scraps are pretty nice. Anyone know if banishing an enemy in addition to sniffing will increase the odds further?

[Capntastic]

Off the top of my head I'm pretty sure it does, but given how the adventure system works there's a limit on effectiveness.  (I might be wrong). 

I don't play optimally, for the most part; I play 'good enough'.  This means when I'm not ascending I basically just throw on my item gear and run my turns.

[aristabulus]

See, I don't have Olfaction yet, but the new familiar that came out in Dreadsylvania can sniff enemies, which I am pretty sure is going to be a Olfaction alternative, which could be pretty awesome. And yeah, I've heard paper scraps are pretty nice. Anyone know if banishing an enemy in addition to sniffing will increase the odds further?

To expand on what Capn said, yeah it'll help, but how much depends on the details.  There are some useful general breakdowns on the Bounty Hunter Hunter's wiki page.  (some of it is out of date, but the general stuff should still be useful)  Banishing removes that monster as a possibility from the queue for how many ever turns.  In an area with 4 or 5 possible monsters, or with low combat frequency, you won't see much difference.  Less monster variety and high combat frequency will make it more noticeable.  Whether it's worth doing really depends on where the banish is coming from, and the opportunity cost attached to it.

That said, I didn't bother with banishing in my slog up to the tome... but I hammered out an ASH script to do it for me, called the turns spent a noob tax, and didn't think about it too much.  I'd skip a few areas that were problematic to automate or swingy to complete, and ranked the rest in order of preference.

Are you using Mafia, quinnr?  Do you want me to dust off that script for ya?

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More generally, how many people are in this bay12 clan?  Do you guys want/need a wealth generator to camp out and dump goodies into the stash?

[quinnr]

See, I don't have Olfaction yet, but the new familiar that came out in Dreadsylvania can sniff enemies, which I am pretty sure is going to be a Olfaction alternative, which could be pretty awesome. And yeah, I've heard paper scraps are pretty nice. Anyone know if banishing an enemy in addition to sniffing will increase the odds further?

To expand on what Capn said, yeah it'll help, but how much depends on the details.  There are some useful general breakdowns on the Bounty Hunter Hunter's wiki page.  (some of it is out of date, but the general stuff should still be useful)  Banishing removes that monster as a possibility from the queue for how many ever turns.  In an area with 4 or 5 possible monsters, or with low combat frequency, you won't see much difference.  Less monster variety and high combat frequency will make it more noticeable.  Whether it's worth doing really depends on where the banish is coming from, and the opportunity cost attached to it.

That said, I didn't bother with banishing in my slog up to the tome... but I hammered out an ASH script to do it for me, called the turns spent a noob tax, and didn't think about it too much.  I'd skip a few areas that were problematic to automate or swingy to complete, and ranked the rest in order of preference.

Are you using Mafia, quinnr?  Do you want me to dust off that script for ya?

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More generally, how many people are in this bay12 clan?  Do you guys want/need a wealth generator to camp out and dump goodies into the stash?

I'd be interested in seeing it, I do use Mafia pretty often (moreso while I'm ascending, but I still fire it up when I remember to). I have a decent supply of banishers from the Clip Art tome, but I suppose I should count the opportunity cost of selling the summon for about 8.5k meat. Thanks for the tips, guys.

[Aoi]

See, I don't have Olfaction yet, but the new familiar that came out in Dreadsylvania can sniff enemies, which I am pretty sure is going to be a Olfaction alternative, which could be pretty awesome. And yeah, I've heard paper scraps are pretty nice. Anyone know if banishing an enemy in addition to sniffing will increase the odds further?

Yes. Banishing a combat removes it entirely, which, for the purpose of On the Trail, you can consider it to have one fewer combat than the zone actually has. There's a number of ways to get perma-banishes, but those are usually either directly expensive, or come with a high opportunity cost.

In terms of low-skill farming, Avatar of Boris is probably one of the best to work with though.

[aristabulus]

I'd be interested in seeing it, I do use Mafia pretty often (moreso while I'm ascending, but I still fire it up when I remember to). I have a decent supply of banishers from the Clip Art tome, but I suppose I should count the opportunity cost of selling the summon for about 8.5k meat. Thanks for the tips, guys.

Okay, the caveats...

This script assumes you're in aftercore, have an abundance of adventures to burn, room in your head for a couple songs from a public & free buffbot, wearing an all-comer outfit with appropriate combat macros/scripts, and have opened all the possible locations for bounties.

The last time I used it was around Crimbo 2012.  I quit playing just before the Castle changes happened in February, but I fixed the location for that.  I don't know if anything else needs to change.  The script is not commented and not elegant, but it's a relatively simple affair.  Figuring out what's going on will not be difficult if you need to alter or fix stuff.  Unless Mafia has been radically rewritten since Feb., this script should run as-is on the current version.

The bounties it will refuse are cubist bulls in Haunted Gallery (unlocking is a hassle, too many fussy non-combats even then), filthy hippies & orcish frat boys on the Island (problematic availability in aftercore, depending on War results), and gearheads at Degrassi Knoll (I was usually Muscle sign, very swingy besides).  By the math on those settings, there's a 1 in 256 chance it will sit and quit on you; I think I had it happen once in about two man-years of usage.

Here it is, ready to paste into a blank file and save as bounty.ash or somesuch:

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int lowbhh;
int medbhh;
int highbhh;

int maybe_carl;
int bounty_pal;
location BountyLocation;
item BountyItem;

int for_buffy = (my_adventures() + 1);

void pick_pal() {
if (bounty_pal == 1) {
use_familiar($familiar[Leprechaun]);
}
else {
use_familiar($familiar[Baby Gravy Fairy]);
}
}

void get_carl() {
if (have_effect($effect[Carlweather's Cantata of Confrontation]) < my_adventures()) {
chat_private(1889009 , ""+for_buffy+" carlweather");
repeat {
cli_execute("wait 5");
refresh_status();
} until (have_effect($effect[Carlweather's Cantata of Confrontation]) >= my_adventures());
print("Got Carlweather's...", "purple");
}
}

void get_urkel() {
if (have_effect($effect[Ur-Kel's Aria of Annoyance]) < my_adventures()) {
chat_private(1889009 , ""+for_buffy+" ur-kel");
repeat {
cli_execute("wait 5");
refresh_status();
} until (have_effect($effect[Ur-Kel's Aria of Annoyance]) >= my_adventures());
print("Got Ur-Kel's...", "purple");
}
}

void doAdventuresBOUNTY(item goalItem) {
    int cap = my_adventures();
    for x from 0 to cap by 1 {
        if(adventure(1, BountyLocation)) {
        }
       
        if(!is_goal(goalItem)) {
            //if your goal has been met, then the goalItem will no longer
            //show up as one of your goals.
            return;
        }
    }
}

void BOUNTY_GET() {
pick_pal();
if (maybe_carl == 1) {
get_carl();
}
get_urkel();
    doAdventuresBOUNTY(BountyItem);
visit_url("bhh.php");
}

void check_low() {
if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "bloodstained briquettes")) {
lowbhh = 9;
print("Today's low bounty is 8 bloodstained briquettes from Knob Goblin Barbecue Teams on the Outskirts of Cobb's Knob.", "teal");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "empty greasepaint tubes")) {
lowbhh = 7;
print("Today's low bounty is 20 empty greasepaint tubes from clowns in the \"Fun\" House.", "teal");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "chunks of hobo gristle")) {
lowbhh = 8;
print("Today's low bounty is 8 chunks of hobo gristle from half-orc hoboes in The Sleazy Back Alley.", "teal");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "oily rags")) {
lowbhh = 0;
print("Today's low bounty is 6 oily rags from the gearheads at Degrassi Knoll.", "teal");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "pink bat eyes")) {
lowbhh = 6;
print("Today's low bounty is 14 pink bat eyes from albino bats in the Bat Hole.", "teal");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "shredded can labels")) {
lowbhh = 10;
print("Today's low bounty is 13 shredded can labels from possessed cans in The Haunted Pantry.", "teal");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "triffid barks")) {
lowbhh = 4;
print("Today's low bounty is 3 triffid barks from triffids in The Spooky Forest.", "teal");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "bits of wilted lettuce")) {
lowbhh = 5;
print("Today's low bounty is 7 bits of wilted lettuce from weretacos in Fernswarthy's Tower.", "teal");
}
}

void check_med() {
if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "broken petri dishes")) {
medbhh = 18;
print("Today's middle bounty is 40 broken petri dishes from the scientists at the Laboratory inside Cobb's Knob.", "blue");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "bundles of receipts")) {
medbhh = 13;
print("Today's middle bounty is 12 bundles of receipts from bean counters in the Cobb's Knob Treasury.", "blue");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "callused fingerbones")) {
medbhh = 11;
print("Today's middle bounty is 4 callused fingerbones from mariachi calaveras South of The Border.", "blue");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "empty aftershave bottles")) {
medbhh = 0;
print("Today's middle bounty is 34 empty aftershave bottles from Orcish frat boys on the Mysterious Island of Mystery.", "blue");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "greasy dreadlocks")) {
medbhh = 0;
print("Today's middle bounty is 11 greasy dreadlocks from filthy hippies on the Mysterious Island of Mystery.", "blue");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "vials of pirate sweat")) {
medbhh = 3;
print("Today's middle bounty is 5 vials of pirate sweat from smarmy pirates on the Mysterious Island of Mystery.", "blue");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "balls of white lint")) {
medbhh = 1;
print("Today's middle bounty is 8 balls of white lint from the Knights of Whitey's Grove.", "blue");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "worthless pieces of yellow glass")) {
medbhh = 14;
print("Today's middle bounty is 6 worthless pieces of yellow glass from kobolds in The Dungeons of Doom.", "blue");
}
}

void check_high() {
if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "billy idols")) {
highbhh = 19;
print("Today's high bounty is 40 billy idols from goats at The Goatlet.", "purple");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "burned-out arcanodiodes")) {
highbhh = 17;
print("Today's high bounty is 5 burned-out arcanodiodes from MagiMechTech MechaMechs on the Penultimate Fantasy Airship.", "purple");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "coal buttons")) {
highbhh = 12;
print("Today's high bounty is 40 coal buttons from ninja snowmen on Mt. McLargeHuge.", "purple");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "discarded pacifiers")) {
highbhh = 20;
print("Today's high bounty is 5 discarded pacifiers from Raver Giants in The Castle in the Sky.", "purple");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "disintegrating corks")) {
highbhh = 2;
print("Today's high bounty is 20 disintegrating corks from sommeliers in The Haunted Wine Cellar.", "purple");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "non-Euclidean hooves")) {
highbhh = 0;
print("Today's high bounty is 11 non-Euclidean hooves from cubist bulls in The Haunted Gallery.", "purple");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "sammich crusts")) {
highbhh = 16;
print("Today's high bounty is 5 sammich crusts from Spam Witches in the Valley of Rof L'm Fao.", "purple");
}
else if (contains_text(visit_url("bhh.php"), "bits of sticky stardust")) {
highbhh = 15;
print("Today's high bounty is 6 bits of sticky stardust from astronomers in the Hole in the Sky.", "purple");
}
}

void main() {
check_low();
check_med();
check_high();
cli_execute("goal clear");

if (highbhh == 20) {
visit_url("bhh.php?pwd&action=takebounty&whichitem=2415");
bounty_pal = 1;
maybe_carl = 1;
BountyLocation = $location[The Castle in the Clouds in the Sky (Top Floor)];
BountyItem = $item[discarded pacifier];
add_item_condition(5, $item[discarded pacifier]);
BOUNTY_GET();
}
else if (highbhh == 19) {
visit_url("bhh.php?pwd&action=takebounty&whichitem=2409");
bounty_pal = 0;
maybe_carl = 0;
BountyLocation = $location[Goatlet];
BountyItem = $item[billy idol];
add_item_condition(40, $item[billy idol]);
BOUNTY_GET();
}
else if (medbhh == 18) {
visit_url("bhh.php?pwd&action=takebounty&whichitem=2411");
bounty_pal = 0;
maybe_carl = 0;
BountyLocation = $location[Knob Laboratory];
BountyItem = $item[broken petri dish];
add_item_condition(40, $item[broken petri dish]);
BOUNTY_GET();
}
else if (highbhh == 17) {
visit_url("bhh.php?pwd&action=takebounty&whichitem=2106");
bounty_pal = 0;
maybe_carl = 0;
BountyLocation = $location[Fantasy Airship];
BountyItem = $item[burned-out arcanodiode];
add_item_condition(5, $item[burned-out arcanodiode]);
BOUNTY_GET();
}
else if (highbhh == 16) {
visit_url("bhh.php?pwd&action=takebounty&whichitem=2412");
bounty_pal = 0;
maybe_carl = 0;
BountyLocation = $location[Orc Chasm];
BountyItem = $item[sammich crust];
add_item_condition(5, $item[sammich crust]);
BOUNTY_GET();
}
else if (highbhh == 15) {
visit_url("bhh.php?pwd&action=takebounty&whichitem=2471");
bounty_pal = 0;
maybe_carl = 0;
BountyLocation = $location[Hole in the Sky];
BountyItem = $item[sticky stardust];
add_item_condition(6, $item[sticky stardust]);
BOUNTY_GET();
}
else if (medbhh == 14) {
visit_url("bhh.php?pwd&action=takebounty&whichitem=2408");
bounty_pal = 0;
maybe_carl = 1;
BountyLocation = $location[Dungeons of Doom];
BountyItem = $item[worthless piece of yellow glass];
add_item_condition(6, $item[worthless piece of yellow glass]);
BOUNTY_GET();
}
else if (medbhh == 13) {
visit_url("bhh.php?pwd&action=takebounty&whichitem=2469");
bounty_pal = 1;
maybe_carl = 1;
BountyLocation = $location[Knob Treasury];
BountyItem = $item[bundle of receipts];
add_item_condition(12, $item[bundle of receipts]);
BOUNTY_GET();
}
else if (highbhh == 12) {
visit_url("bhh.php?pwd&action=takebounty&whichitem=2105");
bounty_pal = 0;
maybe_carl = 0;
BountyLocation = $location[Ninja Snowmen];
BountyItem = $item[coal button];
add_item_condition(40, $item[coal button]);
BOUNTY_GET();
}
else if (medbhh == 11) {
visit_url("bhh.php?pwd&action=takebounty&whichitem=2468");
bounty_pal = 0;
maybe_carl = 1;
BountyLocation = $location[South of the Border];
BountyItem = $item[callused fingerbone];
add_item_condition(4, $item[callused fingerbone]);
BOUNTY_GET();
}
else if (lowbhh == 10) {
visit_url("bhh.php?pwd&action=takebounty&whichitem=2100");
bounty_pal = 0;
maybe_carl = 1;
BountyLocation = $location[Haunted Pantry];
BountyItem = $item[shredded can label];
add_item_condition(13, $item[shredded can label]);
BOUNTY_GET();
}
else if (lowbhh == 9) {
visit_url("bhh.php?pwd&action=takebounty&whichitem=2101");
bounty_pal = 0;
maybe_carl = 1;
BountyLocation = $location[Outskirts of The Knob];
BountyItem = $item[bloodstained briquette];
add_item_condition(8, $item[bloodstained briquette]);
BOUNTY_GET();
}
else if (lowbhh == 8) {
visit_url("bhh.php?pwd&action=takebounty&whichitem=2099");
bounty_pal = 0;
maybe_carl = 1;
BountyLocation = $location[Sleazy Back Alley];
BountyItem = $item[hobo gristle];
add_item_condition(8, $item[hobo gristle]);
BOUNTY_GET();
}
else if (lowbhh == 7) {
visit_url("bhh.php?pwd&action=takebounty&whichitem=2473");
bounty_pal = 0;
maybe_carl = 0;
BountyLocation = $location[Fun House];
BountyItem = $item[empty greasepaint tube];
add_item_condition(20, $item[empty greasepaint tube]);
BOUNTY_GET();
}
else if (lowbhh == 6) {
visit_url("bhh.php?pwd&action=takebounty&whichitem=2407");
bounty_pal = 0;
maybe_carl = 0;
BountyLocation = $location[Bat Hole Entryway];
BountyItem = $item[pink bat eye];
add_item_condition(14, $item[pink bat eye]);
BOUNTY_GET();
}
else if (lowbhh == 5) {
visit_url("bhh.php?pwd&action=takebounty&whichitem=2472");
bounty_pal = 0;
maybe_carl = 0;
BountyLocation = $location[Fernswarthy Ruins];
BountyItem = $item[wilted lettuce];
add_item_condition(7, $item[wilted lettuce]);
BOUNTY_GET();
}
else if (lowbhh == 4) {
visit_url("bhh.php?pwd&action=takebounty&whichitem=2413");
bounty_pal = 0;
maybe_carl = 1;
BountyLocation = $location[Spooky Forest];
BountyItem = $item[triffid bark];
add_item_condition(3, $item[triffid bark]);
BOUNTY_GET();
}
else if (medbhh == 3) {
visit_url("bhh.php?pwd&action=takebounty&whichitem=2103");
bounty_pal = 1;
maybe_carl = 1;
BountyLocation = $location[Pirate Cove];
BountyItem = $item[vial of pirate sweat];
add_item_condition(5, $item[vial of pirate sweat]);
BOUNTY_GET();
}
else if (highbhh == 2) {
visit_url("bhh.php?pwd&action=takebounty&whichitem=2470");
bounty_pal = 0;
maybe_carl = 1;
BountyLocation = $location[Haunted Wine Cellar (Automatic)];
BountyItem = $item[disintegrating cork];
add_item_condition(20, $item[disintegrating cork]);
BOUNTY_GET();
}
else if (medbhh == 1) {
visit_url("bhh.php?pwd&action=takebounty&whichitem=2414");
bounty_pal = 0;
maybe_carl = 1;
BountyLocation = $location[Whitey Grove];
BountyItem = $item[white lint];
add_item_condition(8, $item[white lint]);
BOUNTY_GET();
}
else if ((lowbhh == 0) && (medbhh == 0) && (highbhh == 0)){
print("All of today's bounties suck!  1 in 256 odds do happen once in a while.");
}
else {
print("No valid results were hit... something is very wrong.", "red");
}
}



[My Name is Immaterial]

Doing a HC Bees Hate You run during the Frat-Hippy war quest is like stabbing yourself with a knife every single turn. 100 freaking damage. And the only way I can possibly survive is by being in the clan, so I can use the sofa.

Edit: KOLmafia is amazing.

Edit 2: Do you mind letting my multi (nameisalsoimmaterial) into the clan? Just block that one from dungeons, so we're not violating the notice on the 4th wall.