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Re: Let's ALL Play "Conflict: MEPS" (Community Working Together)
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2009, 05:28:57 pm »

EDIT: I think the problem is that this is a bit intimidating to recommend things for, as far as why it isn't getting much attention.
Just noticed this properly...  Looks good so far.  Anyway...

"We can't just allow Egypt to invade like this, but taking a risk now could mean we won't have the tools to defeat them later.  We should avoid extreme measures with the insurgency if possible, and strengthen it for later.  Current events show that freezing our defense budget is out of the question, and as far as as the military alliances are concerned..."
He trails off, and shakes his head.
"If securing these alliances means we can stop Egypt from advancing, then it would be a worthwhile investment.  Even if we have to give up something for it, our survival is more important at this point.  Iran and Iraq, with the potential nuclear exchange...  I don't know what we can do about that."
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Re: Let's ALL Play "Conflict: MEPS" (Community Working Together)
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2009, 11:39:47 pm »

"I've said it before and I'll say it again.  Avoiding war with Egypt at all costs isn't cowardice!  It's sanity!" The impatient, outspoken minister of the interior blustered 
"We had victory against them once, when their leaders were rash and surrendered quickly.  We can not hope for a swift conflict again.  The ability of our military is outstanding, but the Egyptian numbers are inexhaustible.  We can't allow ourselves be goaded into conflict which could wipe Isreal off the map!"
The minister gave a fierce, angry stare at the rest of the cabinet before softening somewhat and continuing in a more subdued tone.
"Libya may be our only salvation in this situation.  My ministry co-ordinated with the military in an assessment of the egyptian transportation system a a few years ago.  The study concluded that the Egyptian capacity for a war of attrition was fearsome.  But it was judged that Egypt would have great difficulty moving forces between their borders were they to be attacked by Libya while engaged in a war with us.  Libya could destroy the egyptian regime with such a surprise attack.  But first Egypt would need to fully commit it's forces against us, a terrible prospect..."
"...it makes me sick to my stomach to advise dealing with the corrupt Libyan regime.  But we can't pass up on such a precious opportunity.  Do our intelligence experts believe Libya can survive it's current instabilities?"
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Re: Let's ALL Play "Conflict: MEPS" (Community Working Together)
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2009, 12:40:26 pm »

As  the President of the Arab League, I hereby call this emergency meeting of  the Arab League to order.

As  much as I appluad your attempt at asserting leadership in this crisis,  Lebanon...I do not think that it will...work. The Arab League needs  someone more skilled in diplomacy, and, you, Lebanon, are not up to the  challenge.

Shut  up. The Egyptian ambassador has requested that he would like to speak  first. Egypt, if you mind...

Thank  you, Lebanon. You seen the war between Egypt and Israel recently. This  was a inevtible war. Israel has arrested a popular hotel mogul, blamed  Egypt for killing their Prime Minister, and bombing innocent civilians  along the Egyptian border.



But I  would also like to draw attention to the plight of the Palestinan people.  The people of Palestine has been oppressed and they have been trying to  protest against the unjust rule. In Janurary 1997, Israeli troops moved  into Palestine.



And  after some minor incidents in Feburary 1997, where the Palestianan people  staged small-scale demonstrations protesting the the war against Egypt,  the Israeli military was ordered to use 'hard tactics'. The Israeli  military has beaten people, even killed them. Just for disagreeing with  the government. Tell me, is that really a hallmark of a 'liberal  democracy', as Israeli defenders say it is?

Israe l has been pushing us around for a long time. And why is that? Once, we  posed a united front against Israeli aggression. Now many people here  have sold out to Israel, in the vain hope that diplomacy will tame the  Israeli beast. Indeed, it has not. Indeed, Israel has overreached. If it  destroys Egypt, the right-wing nationalistic parties will only call for  the destruction of other nations. I urge a different course of action, I  urge unity.

I  introduce a resolution to the Arab League, condemning the Israeli  invasion, condemning the Israeli suppression of anti-war protests, and  siding with Egypt in this war. We need unity in this crisis.

Are  you done?

...Ye s.

Good.



Becau se I would like to draw attention to a dead Egyptian singer named Abdul  Haleem Hafez. Now, why would I like to draw your attention to this dead  singer? Well, because since Februrary 1997, we've been dealing with a  'Hafezist' terrorist organization that calls for the destruction of the  Syrian regime. You want to know why they call themselves Hafezists?  Because they take inspiration from an old song that glorifies the  Egyptian regime and calls for 'Arab Unity'. They accuse my leader of  disrupting that unity.

...Yo u ever thought to blame yourself for the protests? You have been talking  to Israel for the past several years, but there has still been no justice  for Palestine or for Arabs. I wouldn't be surprised if your own  population sees you as a 'sell-out'.

Let  me be more blatant. You are sponsoring this insurgency so you can create  a pro-Egyptian regime. You want to annex Syria, just like you did during  the United Arab Republic era.

Your  country is led by nothing more than a power-hungry tyrant, selling  himself out to the highest bidder. You preached about destroying  'Communism' and spreading democracy, upsetting all of us who had to deal  with Western imperialism first-hand. Now that your alliance with the  Crusaders failed, you want to move onto destroying your foes so as to  take over the entire Middle East and remodel it into your image, using  the issue of Palestine as an excuse.

Hey,  Syria. While you are complaning about peaceful protesters...



...my  country had to supress the Islamic Unity Bridage, a terrorist  organization. And guess who was running said terrorist organization? The  Syrian intelligence agencies! And guess who helped me stop the terrorists  once and for all, bringing them down to a very low level of activity? The  Egyptians.

All  Egypt cares about is trying to protect Arabs from oppression and  injustice, regardless of where they happen to reside. While you sneer,  Syria, people die due to terror bombings in Jordan and due to Israeli air  raids!

We  care about Arabs too, Jordan. But we care about all Arabs being free, not  a bunch of power-hungry elites who seek to use Arabs as pawns in their  geopolitical quest for glory.

You  know, normally, I would expect the Arab League to not bicker at each  other, but instead focus on the Persian hordes rampaging through Iraq. I  must have been far too idealistic.



But  since you seem to like complaining about petty political movements  instead of actually doing anything, let me complain about the 'Arab  Freeedom Fighters'. You would expect that the Arab Freedom Fighters would  be fighting for Arabs. Funny thing is, they are not. They are basically  Shia fifth columnists, receiving much assistance from Egypt and Iran.  They desire to bring my country back to the Middle Ages, creating an  Islamic theocracy and waging perpetual war against Israel.

I  suppose it would be a good idea to let me speak?

The  illegal Zionist occupation regime has contacted me recently via a  proposal recently. They wanted me to invade Egypt. If Egypt is in a  two-front war, Egypt will fall. The Zionist Regime is even more than  willing to let my leader control Egypt, and offered up the idea of  resurrecting the idea of a new Arab Republic.

And  you expect me to believe that Israel trusted you?

The  Zionist Regime is desperate. It is searching for strange bedfellows, much like it is willing to ally with both Syria and Iraq.

So,  you're going to sell out to Israel?

I  hate Egypt, make no mistake. Egypt is a hypocrite. But the Zionist regime   is turning even more insane, and if Egypt falls, what is it to say that  Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria would fall too? I am afraid to wonder what  would happen if the Zionists convince America to go on a crusade to  spread so-called "Democracy" in the Middle East.

The  Zionists are not content with occupying Palestine. They're going to  occupy the entirty of the Middle East, they're going to create puppet governments, and they're going to use Egypt as an excuse to continue the policy of oppression. I support Egypt's proposal, and furthermore, call on all Arabs to liberate Palestine. The Zionists cannot survive a two-front war.

A war with Israel may be successful, but the consquences will only lead to more warfare in the Middle East. The United States will have no choice BUT to intervene in the Middle East, and a wounded beast will have no reason to restrain its wild behavior. I do support a vote on the motion proposed by Egypt, but suggest one amendment: "The Arab League calls for a cessation of hositilies between Egypt and Israel, and that an indepedent UN investigation be sent to determine the guilt or innocence of Hisham Talaat Moustafa and Tarek Talaat Moustafa." Let us return to the status quo.

Neither side will budge on this issue. It's either Egypt or the Zionists.

If  you call a vote on Egypt's motion, both Syria and Iraq will have no choice but to leave the corrupt Arab League, which represent the interests of a few autocrats and desires warfare, as opposed to peace.

But  it's totally okay for Syria to intervene in the affairs of Lebanon, huh?  You're not welcome here. Get out.

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Re: Let's ALL Play "Conflict: MEPS" (Community Working Together)
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2009, 02:58:46 am »

I'm so confused...

Erm?  Is it wise to support the government of iraq?  if iraq and iran go to war...
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« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2009, 09:19:08 am »

I posted it as a way to explain why the Arab coalition is splintering apart, what with two countries entering into a military alliance.

A short summary:
Pro-Israeli Countries
*Syria
*Iraq
*Israel

Anti-Israeli Countries
*Egypt
*Jordan
*Libya
*Lebanon
*Iran

And Iraq is already at war with Iran. I do think it's wise, because if Iran falls, Iraq would then be able to serve as a second front against Syria, altough it is likely to be destroyed by the Syrian armed forces.
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Re: Let's ALL Play "Conflict: MEPS" (Community Working Together)
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2009, 01:23:40 pm »

Seeing as neither country is likely to have nukes so soon, I guess the risk of nuclear war is not excessive.  I still don't like it, but whatever.

How much tension is there with Lebanon?  So long as we are selling our soul by allying with Syria and Iraq, we might as well take down Lebanon while we're at it.  A single brigade should be able to keep that border secure.  Would the tension of having such a conflict looming inspire Isreal to redouble it's defense efforts?
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Re: Let's ALL Play "Conflict: MEPS" (Community Working Together)
« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2009, 10:21:28 pm »

In order to prepare for me playing Oasis, I wanted to finish the old LPs like Conflict: MEPS and The General. Conflict: MEPS is on a seperate computer so I've been playing it a lot, however, I recently have encountered a new...er...problem.
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Syria. I am glad you are here to discuss security issues...

Shut it. I know why you called me in.

Indeed. So let get right to the point.



Somebody leaked 'intel images' to the United States press. These intelligence files indicate that you are building a nuclear power plant.

Why?

Energy, of course. We were planning on releasing this information to the general public anyway.

You're an oil-producing country.

But oil's going to run out, Israel. Then what? We have to prepare for the future. Plus, while we sell oil to the West, we have to buy gasoline, cutting into any oil profits we may make. The more local energy we can produce, the more oil profit we can actually have.

Syria, we're military allies now. There is no reason to worry. I'm sure this 'leak' is really a feeble attempt to try and disrupt our new-found friendship. I just want to make sure that this program is indeed for civilian purposes, and will not be used to create nuclear weapons that could endanger the security of the Middle East.

I can assure you, it is just as civilian as your nuclear program, Israel.

That's...good to know. Let us talk on lesser matters, like disarming the PLO...

From: The Prime Minister
To: The Cabinet


Mossad tells us that a nuclear power plant will be completed around September 1996. Mossad also tells us that this nuclear power plant is military in nature.

However, we cannot bomb the nuclear power plant, as we are in a military alliance with Syria. If we want to bomb the power plant, we have to terminate the military alliance, and thereby disrupt our relationship with Syria. Bombing the Syrian nuclear power plant will more than likely lead to Syria disliking us, and, I am not sure if bombing the nuclear power plant will set back Syria's nuclear ambition that much.

If we rally against Syria's nuclear program, there is a possiblity that tensions between Syria and Israel may boil over to a point where Syria will attack our country. Since we are already in a war with Egypt, this is not good.

But if Syria gains a hold of a nuclear bomb, the results could be dangerous to Middle East stability. If we have no nukes, and Syria attacks us, Syria will win the war. If we have nukes, and Syria have nukes...World War III will begin.

Behind Syria's back, we are making alliances with the 'Hafezist' Coalition. If the Hafezists grow in power, they might be able to overthrow Syria, thereby stopping the Syrian nuclear program in its tracks. This is the ideal solution, as it means we do not have to worry about upsetting Syria, but it is also a risky strategy.

As Israel is a democracy, I hereby desire you speak on this important security matter.
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Re: Let's ALL Play "Conflict: MEPS" (Community Working Together)
« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2009, 12:49:51 am »

We're at war with egypt?

Whelp, we had a nice run.  Fun playin' with you guys.

War with egypt is a much bigger problem then a syrian nuke.  With luck, mossad should be able to cause syria's government to collapse.  But egypt has the potential to wipe isreal off the map.  Start destabilizing syria and fight off the egyptian jaggernaut as best we can.  Any hope from Libya?
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« Reply #38 on: June 10, 2009, 10:02:09 pm »

I am posting to state that I am going to attempt to reactive this LP. Provide me with any new advice and questions before I play out the Egypt-Israeli war and begin posting the new screenshots and the backstory to go along with it.

I'm going to be answering the questions posed by maniac, Golgath, and other people just before posting the screenshots and the backstory.
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Re: Let's ALL Play "Conflict: MEPS" (Community Working Together)
« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2009, 05:53:54 pm »

If we are at war with egypt it's game over, man.
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Re: Let's ALL Play "Conflict: MEPS" (Community Working Together)
« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2009, 06:14:55 pm »

"This minister recommends we shove everything we have onto the Egyptian border, and we leave the issue of the Syrian nuke for later. Syria developing a nuke is troubling, but it is a minor issue compared to invasion by Egypt. If we can't win the conflict, we need to delay it long enough so that we can develop a nuclear program which would allow us to strike Egypt and topple her with one decisive blow. Try to delay the conflict for as long as possible, pander to Egypt democratically, build up our forces as much as we can."

Little sits down in her desk and pulls a briefcase up onto the desk. She opens the brown leather carrier, guiltily glancing at the airline ticket and false identity that would transfer her to the US at the beginning of next month as a whole new person. Little would slink away in the middle of the night, but if she survived, she was okay with that. She takes out a sheaf of papers and stands again.

She reads, "I also recommend we invade Lebanon. It would bolster morale at home and it would send a clear message to our neighbors. Lebanon is a weak state anyways, and with a quick invasion and occupation, it would not make much of a difference in the conflict. Here's my report."

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Re: Let's ALL Play "Conflict: MEPS" (Community Working Together)
« Reply #41 on: June 11, 2009, 09:23:54 pm »

Man...I think some of us are hesitant because it's the bloody Middle East.

I have to say, it's just kinda sad that the only way to get ahead in this game is by murdering people, building nukes, declaring war and funding terrorists.
Diplomacy doesn't really work in this game, huh?

That being said...
"Ahem.  Gentlemen.
Will supporting a Syrian insurgency really halt their nuclear program, or more importantly, end the nuclear threat?  It could be even worse if it ended up in the hands of some of these terrorist groups."
[Call of Duty 4 all over again.  Somehow, I doubt we're going to have the SAS come save us.]
"Speaking of nuclear weapons...it might be better to put our program on hold, and use the budget to fund other matters.  It seems that any nuclear option is a bad one; if we launch nukes...1)The world could end, if the other nations retaliate.  2)The Western powers will turn their backs on us; no advanced hardware, and no foreign aid.  2a)They might even bring in the UN; on the other side.  3)We will be attacked by every other country in the region.  Hey, at least we'll have a unified Middle East.  Too bad we won't be around to enjoy it."
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« Reply #42 on: June 11, 2009, 09:31:26 pm »

Firing nuclear weapons?!?  Are you mad?  How do you think the Soviets will react?  With flowers?  No, they would launch the missiles, you belligerent Likud fool!  You would create a second holocaust in your foolishness.  Think before you speak, perhaps.

Regarding the Syrian threat... I believe that the Syrian nuclear weapons will not be a concern should their government collapse.  Nuclear weapons are complex devices.  No one wants them in unstable hands so I do not think we should be surprised if the Syrian technology "disappears" when the U.N. peacekeepers are deployed.
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« Reply #43 on: June 11, 2009, 09:41:16 pm »

"Who?  Moi?  I said that launching the theoretical nukes was a bad idea."
"And forget the technology, even the nuclear material is dangerous in the hands of some of these people."

Or is this before dirty bombs were a big concern?
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"Whatever happens, we have got the ballista and they have not."

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« Reply #44 on: June 11, 2009, 11:16:47 pm »

"Who?  Moi?  I said that launching the theoretical nukes was a bad idea."
"And forget the technology, even the nuclear material is dangerous in the hands of some of these people."

Or is this before dirty bombs were a big concern?

That angry outburst was not meant to be directed at you, apologies for the confusion.

((Dirty bombs dont exist in the game.  Neither do nuclear materials falling in the hands of rogue groups.  If a nation is taken down, it's nukes are gone.))
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