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Author Topic: Guzzler Tag Problem/Ooze Creature  (Read 3596 times)

Warlord255

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Guzzler Tag Problem/Ooze Creature
« on: November 03, 2008, 08:26:02 pm »

To summarize: I am trying to create a horrific monster.

We all know Rhesus Macaques, and how they come in cowardly swarms to try to loot your fortress. This is the result of a tag called [CURIOUSBEAST_ITEM]. There are similar tags entitled [CURIOUSBEAST_GUZZLER] and [CURIOUSBEAST_EATER].

My goal is to create a door-smashing, stockpile-ravaging, mass-swarming, seasonally occuring organless Ooze monster which attempts to invade your fortress and kill/eat everything inside; in short, an artificial siege.

The basis of this is the aforementioned behavior of Rhesus Macaques, with all forms of cowardice removed; they come for the food/booze and stay for the Dwarven dessert. This, however, is where my current problem lies. I can't for the life of me get the bastards to go after food or drink.

Here's the code as it stands now:

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[CREATURE:OOZE_INEVITABLE]
[NAME:inevitable ooze:inevitable oozes:inevitable ooze]
[TILE:176][COLOR:3:0:1][ALTTILE:177]
[MODVALUE:3]
[LARGE_ROAMING][FREQUENCY:100][DIFFICULTY:2]
[POPULATION_NUMBER:20:50]
[CLUSTER_NUMBER:1:12][LOOSE_CLUSTERS]
[CURIOUSBEAST_GUZZLER]
[BONECARN]
[LARGE_PREDATOR]
[LIKES_FIGHTING]
[GENPOWER:6]
[PETVALUE:750]
[GRASSTRAMPLE:20][NATURAL]
[PREFSTRING:amorphous bodies]
[PREFSTRING:rugged persistence]
[CANOPENDOORS]
[NOT_BUTCHERABLE]
[NOPAIN][EXTRAVISION][NOBREATHE][NOSTUN][NONAUSEA][NOEMOTION]
[SEVERONBREAKS][NOSKULL][NOSKIN][NOBONES][NOMEAT][NOTHOUGHT][NOEXERT][RECKLESS]
[BUILDINGDESTROYER:1]
[NOSMELLYROT]
[NOFEAR]
[BODY:BASIC_1PARTBODY_STANCE:ORGAN_STOMACH]
[BODYGLOSS:OOZE]
[BODYGLOSS:OOZE2]
[SIZE:10]
[MAXAGE:900:1000]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:absorb:absorbs:1:5:BURN][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
[CHILD:1][CHILDNAME:inevitable ooze spawn:inevitable ooze spawn][LITTERSIZE:1:2]
[NO_SLEEP]
[ALL_ACTIVE]
[BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_CHASM]
[STANDARD_FLESH]
[BLOODTYPE:SLIME]
[HOMEOTHERM:10067]
[LAYERING:100]
[SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:5000]
[CANNOT_UNDEAD]
[MUNDANE]


[BODY:BASIC_1PARTBODY_STANCE]
[BP:UB:body][UPPERBODY][LOWERBODY][STANCE][GRASP][SMALL]
[BP:CHUNK1:chunk][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][MOUTH][EMBEDDED]
[BP:CHUNK2:chunk][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][MOUTH][EMBEDDED]
[BP:CHUNK3:chunk][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][MOUTH][EMBEDDED]
[BP:CHUNK4:chunk][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][MOUTH][EMBEDDED]
[BP:CHUNK5:chunk][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][MOUTH][EMBEDDED]
[BP:CHUNK6:chunk][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][MOUTH][EMBEDDED]
[BP:CHUNK7:chunk][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][MOUTH][EMBEDDED]
[BP:CHUNK8:chunk][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][MOUTH][EMBEDDED]
[BP:CHUNK9:chunk][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][MOUTH][EMBEDDED]


[BODYGLOSS:OOZE:upper body:upper mass]

[BODYGLOSS:OOZE2:lower body:lower mass]


[BODY:ORGAN_STOMACH]
[BP:STOMACH:core][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][INTERNAL][SMALL][SMELL]

Everything else, it seems, works fine; the oozes are perfectly capable of movement, as well as dwarf-killing, and when attacked the Chunks of them come off without a hitch.

I've removed the [NOEAT] tag and added a stomach and smell-part in hopes of triggering its ability/desire to eat food, but there's been no results. Does it need a full contingent of organs to eat?

Picture attached from a test run; the tile oscillates.

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Re: Guzzler Tag Problem/Ooze Creature
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2008, 08:43:35 pm »

One thing I've noticed is, uh,  your tile looks EXACTLY like air without tiles above or 1z below it.
It sounds like it switches between ones, which makes it better, I guess, but still...
As per your problem, last I checked, GUZZLER only goes after drink, not food.
Why it still wouldn't go after your alcohol stockpiles, I have no idea.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2008, 08:45:28 pm by jaybud4 »
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Re: Guzzler Tag Problem/Ooze Creature
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2008, 08:48:00 pm »

One thing I've noticed is, uh,  your tile looks EXACTLY like air without tiles above or 1z below it.
It sounds like it switches between ones, which makes it better, I guess, but still...
As per your problem, last I checked, GUZZLER only goes after drink, not food.
Why it still wouldn't go after your alcohol stockpiles, I have no idea.

Actually, it's a lighter cyan, instead of the dark cyan. <_<

At any rate, I've removed the [CURIOUSBEAST_EATER] tag for now, theorizing that because there are no creatures right now with two [CURIOUSBEAST] tags, they might cancel each other out somehow.
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Re: Guzzler Tag Problem/Ooze Creature
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2008, 08:50:05 pm »

Hmm..  Are you getting anything in your errorlog.txt?
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Re: Guzzler Tag Problem/Ooze Creature
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2008, 09:00:35 pm »

Nothing pertaining to the eating or booze pathing, no. It did say that the [RECKLESS] tag was invalid, however, which is odd since I plundered it from the Fire Man...
« Last Edit: November 03, 2008, 09:03:30 pm by Warlord255 »
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Re: Guzzler Tag Problem/Ooze Creature
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2008, 09:11:44 pm »

From what version did you plunder it from? That was removed a few releases ago because Toady realized it did the same thing as [liKES_FIGHTING]. Maybe use that instead.
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Re: Guzzler Tag Problem/Ooze Creature
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2008, 09:18:08 pm »

40d, but it could just be vestigial.

Either way, removed. Still wondering about the organs problem.

I've been combing the wiki, but now I'm going to try giving it all the organs and see if it allows it to loot/eat, and remove organs until it stops eating.
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Re: Guzzler Tag Problem/Ooze Creature
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2008, 09:42:11 pm »

It has no mouth!  How can it eat without a mouth  :)
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Re: Guzzler Tag Problem/Ooze Creature
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2008, 09:46:59 pm »

It has no mouth!  How can it eat without a mouth  :)

It has NINE MOUTHS.

Though the fact that they're not connected directly to the upper body may have to do with it... organs did nothing, let's try that.
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Re: Guzzler Tag Problem/Ooze Creature
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2008, 09:50:45 pm »

Oh, the chunks are the mouths.  Okay.
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Re: Guzzler Tag Problem/Ooze Creature
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2008, 10:17:50 pm »

Hmm. Attaching the mouth to the upper body does not help. Maybe it needs a head?

Also, the fact that they are currently being spawned in chasms; they keep leashing back to their "lair" area. Is this a biome conflict or a problem with creatures that spawn on map gen? I see them trying to wander out, but then running back

Adding a head with a mouth attached did nothing. Let's try putting all the organs back on, with guts this time.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2008, 10:34:25 pm by Warlord255 »
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Re: Guzzler Tag Problem/Ooze Creature
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2008, 10:34:46 pm »

Perhaps they need a throat?
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Re: Guzzler Tag Problem/Ooze Creature
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2008, 10:43:53 pm »

Perhaps they need a throat?

I'll try that next. Full organs (including guts), head, mouth attached to head...
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Re: Guzzler Tag Problem/Ooze Creature
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2008, 10:52:33 pm »

Let me know if it works. I want to make one that eats elves.
And chain it to my Depot.
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Re: Guzzler Tag Problem/Ooze Creature
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2008, 10:55:27 pm »

OKAY

WHAT THE HELL MAN

FULL ORGANS, GUTS, HEAD, THROAT.

WHY WON'T YOU DRINK

this is becoming frustrating.

Let's try giving it ears and eyes.

NOPE, NOT THAT EITHER.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2008, 11:01:10 pm by Warlord255 »
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