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LSTAR

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Re: Essentials of a Good Online Game
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2008, 11:10:00 am »

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<STRONG>Now, this is really mysterious. It's definitely a bot, as i found the text at other forums via google, but this is the only place it gets specific and kind of abusive.   :)
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Re: Essentials of a Good Online Game
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2008, 11:24:00 am »

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Yes, only on the IGDA they tried to start a discussion with the thing    :)</STRONG>



LOL

What is this bot trying to achieve? It doesn't seem it be selling anything.

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Re: Essentials of a Good Online Game
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2008, 12:52:00 pm »

Some are just there to piss people off.
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Re: Essentials of a Good Online Game
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2008, 01:27:00 pm »

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Originally posted by Red Jackard:
<STRONG>Some are just there to piss people off.</STRONG>

Troll-bots?
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Re: Essentials of a Good Online Game
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2008, 04:23:00 pm »

You shouldn't say that. It might start regenerating!
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Re: Essentials of a Good Online Game
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2008, 07:04:00 pm »

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Originally posted by LSTAR:
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Yes, only on the IGDA they tried to start a discussion with the thing    :)</STRONG>


I thought this was hilarious. This has been stated before, the DF community is much smarter (and nicer) than any I've ever seen. Someone should tell them  :)

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Re: Essentials of a Good Online Game
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2008, 10:06:00 pm »

He was exaggerating - three indifferent posts is not exactly a 'discussion'.
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Re: Essentials of a Good Online Game
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2008, 10:24:00 pm »

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<STRONG>He was exaggerating - three indifferent posts is not exactly a 'discussion'.</STRONG>

Yeah, but they were talking to it!
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Re: Essentials of a Good Online Game
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2008, 02:02:00 am »

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Troll-bots?</STRONG>

It's ingenious but at the same time so mindboggingly stupid of a concept, I think my eyes just ceased to synch with one another..

Kill it with fire and acid!

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Re: Essentials of a Good Online Game
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2008, 01:40:00 am »

To be fair, graphics is a pretty big part of games.  They don't need to be stellar and ground-breaking, but easy and functional.  Unfortunately, DF is difficult to represent the huge amount of information easily without something as complicated as ASCII.  It could be done with 3d graphics, sure, but it would double or triple the effort required to make such a game, at the very least.
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Re: Essentials of a Good Online Game
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2008, 01:40:00 pm »

ASCII and Complicated doesn't fit in the same sentence.

And as DF has proven time and again, - graphics is not a necessity for a good game.

Sure, it can enhance the experience, but a game that pushes the limits of photo realistic graphics, generally looses a little in terms of gameplay, or "fun".
Something I feel is growing more important as time goes by.

Honestly. How many pixelperfect football games does mankind need.

And I will make it my personal mission to smack people hard across the face if they judge a game solely by looks and first impressions.

In closing, prototype TrollBot Linda07 registers 7000- hits on Google: Most being the profile page of a low ranking member of news and message boards regarding games. Presumably all posting the same malarky. I am posting a reward of six chocolate chip cookies, some spare change lying in my pocket and half a canister of PowerClean airspray (warning: Does not actually contain air, do not attempt to inhale the pressurized butan/mixture contents as this will kill you by aphyxiation, you god damn morons.) for the confirmed smacking across the face of its creator or originator. Irregardless of gender, age or religious orientation. Thank you.

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Re: Essentials of a Good Online Game
« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2008, 07:27:00 pm »

Damn, I knew I was doing something wrong when I got all those game-crashing bugs in my source. Oh well, off to the store to buy some face paint.
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Re: Essentials of a Good Online Game
« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2008, 09:23:00 pm »

quote:
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They should be fun
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The KISS principle
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Smooth Controls
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Graphics and Sound
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Technically sound Structure
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[ January 04, 2008: Message edited by: Toady One ][/QB]

I think something witty is going on here.  Toady's games have very little of these "essential ingredients for a game", but still manages to get practically famous for DF somehow.

So, DF is:

More repetitive and management-based than all-out ADHD fun.

Moderately complex.

Difficult to control.

Primitive graphics, less sound.

No in-game help, help is on a different site, decent modding options, so moderate support, I guess.


Basically, it's very much opposite of what the industry standard would expect to yield a successful game.  Or, at least what everyone with Computer Science degrees would tell us.  Not the bots, but the real CS people, you know.

I don't care about the bot, it just brought that to mind.

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Re: Essentials of a Good Online Game
« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2008, 09:35:00 pm »

Toady One only has one ingredient in DF:

∞ gallons of Awesome

Come on, it's not that complicated. We all know what's fun and what isn't. There's no master recipe for a good game. If the game isn't fun, it's not a good game.

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Re: Essentials of a Good Online Game
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2008, 04:46:00 am »

Whats funny about really good simple fun games, I play them non-stop for days because they're so fun, then I stop because they're so repetative and boring. DF may not be pure-funnage like other games, but its got content, so much content that you will never run out of things to do. On top of that Toady updates almost every day except weekends, which means we can expect even more every few weeks.

Not to mention its got the best forum community ive ever been on.

[ February 04, 2008: Message edited by: Dark ]

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