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[Gigalith]

If it's a good game, $10 is hardly anything. I bought a used disk-only copy of MoM off Ebay for $20 or so, and it was worth every cent. For a frame of reference, my spending income is less that $4 a week.

[Cthulhu]

MoM?

[Kagus]

DaD?

[Duke 2.0]

SoN?

[Dasleah]

HappY FamilY?

[Cthulhu]

I was actually referring to Gigalith's purchase of a game call MoM.

[Sean Mirrsen]

Mines of Moria fits the acronym. I think it's a LoTR Online expansion.

[lumin]

I bet he means "Master of Magic"

[subject name here]

The problem with Derek Smarts games is that the learning curve is so steep that it's impossible to climb it and get to the fun part.

I recommend Dominions 3, once you figure it out it's a great way to waste an evening or ten.

I don't know if it's learning curve is step enough for you but Wizardry 8 is great too, Wizardry 7 is even better.

[Sappho]

Darklands.  It's unbelievable.  Very intimidating at first, but so worth it you'll spend hundreds of hours of your life playing it.  It's abandonware and can be found on www.the-underdogs.info.   You need DOSbox to play it on newer computers, but again...  Worth it.

[Gigalith]

quote:Originally posted by lumin:
<STRONG>I bet he means "Master of Magic"</STRONG>

Yeah, that's it. Sorry for not being clear.

Also, Clonk. The controls are hideous, but there's a cool game beneath it all.

[Trollvottel]

The Egosoft X series.

It's a lot like Elite, WC Privateer, and so on, only with great graphics ... and you get to build your own space stations eventually. Dozens of them. You need those if you want to fly the huge Carriers, Battleships etc ...

It took me about a week to manage to learn the controls. One reason was the sucky tutorial ("Press the key for SINZA mode" - then you spend minutes looking up "Sinza" (game speed multiplier) and finding that key in the manual - then you press "j" and the tutorial say "now press the key to ...")

Another, well - it's a german game and I guess they keep overestimating the average game buyer, and deciding that a manual is enough  

However, with X3 ... once you get into it, you'll stay glued for a half-year. (I did, while still working freelance. Just about went broke as a result.  

[Helmaroc]

Are there any free, nice open-ended space games...like all those trading games, but with more than trading

[JustOnePixel]

ASCII Sector kept me entertained for awhile.  But if you're willing to shell out a little bit of cash, X2 by Egosoft is your best bet (it's part of the series that Trollvottel brought up).  Seriously, the depth of it is staggering.  It's got some sharp code - on my machine (which is 6 years old), it runs without a hitch on almost-full detail.  Definitely a good example of what happens when you tighten up the graphics on level 3  

[Cthulhu]

You don't need to buy X2.  It's free on Gametap, and it will be for an as of yet undetermined period.

But yeah, I can't recommend it enough, the depth is insane, graphics are beautiful, acting and textual grammar are a bit off, and the depth can be overwhelming at first, but if you play DF, you'll be good.

[ June 02, 2008: Message edited by: Cthulhu ]