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varkarrus

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Hamsters
« on: December 09, 2008, 04:45:20 pm »

What is wrong with the following? Hamster Animals don't spawn, and there are no Intelligent Hamster Cities?

[CREATURE:HAMSTER]
    [NAME:hamster:hamsters:hamster]
    [TILE:'h'][COLOR:6:0:1]
    [LARGE_ROAMING]
    [POPULATION_NUMBER:80:110]
    [CLUSTER_NUMBER:7:20]
    [NO_WINTER][NO_AUTUMN][BENIGN][MEANDERER]
    [PETVALUE:50]
    [GRASSTRAMPLE:0]
    [PREFSTRING:large numbers][NATURAL][PET]
    [BODY:QUADRUPED:TAIL:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:MOUTH]
    [BODYGLOSS:PAW]
    [MAXAGE:10:15]
    [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:3:5:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
    [CHILD:1][CHILDNAME:hoary marmot pup:hoary marmot pups]
    [SIZE:2]
    [FAT:3]
    [NOMEAT]
    [DIURNAL]
    [BIOME:MOUNTAIN]
    [STANDARD_FLESH]
    [HOMEOTHERM:10067]
    [LAYERING:200]
    [SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
    [MUNDANE]
    [CARNIVORE]
    [BONECARN]
    [liKES_FIGHTING]
    [NOFEAR]
    [NOPAIN]
    [CURIOUSBEAST_GUZZLER]

[CREATURE:HAMSTER_INTELLIGENT]
    [NAME:hamster:hamsters:hamster]
    [INTELLIGENT]
    [TILE:'h'][COLOR:6:0:1]
    [LARGE_ROAMING]
    [POPULATION_NUMBER:80:110]
    [CLUSTER_NUMBER:7:20]
    [NO_WINTER][NO_AUTUMN][BENIGN][MEANDERER]
    [PETVALUE:50]
    [GRASSTRAMPLE:0]
    [PREFSTRING:large numbers][NATURAL][PET]
    [BODY:QUADRUPED:TAIL:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:MOUTH]
    [BODYGLOSS:PAW]
    [MAXAGE:5:6]
    [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:2:4:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
    [CHILD:1][CHILDNAME:hoary marmot pup:hoary marmot pups]
    [SIZE:2]
    [FAT:3]
    [NOMEAT]
    [DIURNAL]
    [STANDARD_FLESH]
    [HOMEOTHERM:10067]
    [LAYERING:200]
    [SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
    [MUNDANE]
    [CARNIVORE]
    [BONECARN]
    [liKES_FIGHTING]
    [NOFEAR]
    [NOPAIN]
    [CURIOUSBEAST_GUZZLER]
    [CRAFTSMAN_NAME:craftster:craftsters]
    [FISHERMAN_NAME:fishter:fishters]
    [HAMMERMAN_NAME:hamter:hamters]
    [SPEARMAN_NAME:spearter:spearters]
    [CROSSBOWMAN_NAME:markster:marksters]
    [AXEMAN_NAME:axter:axters]
    [SWORDSMAN_NAME:swordster:swordsters]
    [MACEMAN_NAME:maceter:maceters]
    [PIKEMAN_NAME:pikester:pikesters]
    [BOWMAN_NAME:blowter:blowters]
    [SPEECH:dwarf.txt]

[ENTITY:HAMSTER]
    [CIV_CONTROLLABLE]
    [CREATURE:HAMSTER_INTELLIGENT]
    [trANSLATION:HAMSTER]
    [DIGGER:ITEM_WEAPON_HAMSTER_CLAW]
    [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_BATTLE]
    [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HAMMER_WAR]
    [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT]
    [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR]
    [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MACE]
    [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_BLOWGUN]
        [AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_BLOWDARTS]
    [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_PLATEMAIL:COMMON]
    [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_CHAINMAIL:COMMON]
    [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_LEATHER:COMMON]
    [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_COAT:COMMON]
    [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_SHIRT:COMMON]
    [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_CLOAK:COMMON]
    [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_TUNIC:COMMON]
    [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_TOGA:UNCOMMON]
    [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_VEST:COMMON]
    [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_DRESS:COMMON]
    [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_ROBE:COMMON]
    [HELM:ITEM_HELM_HELM:COMMON]
    [HELM:ITEM_HELM_CAP:COMMON]
    [HELM:ITEM_HELM_HOOD:COMMON]
    [GLOVES:ITEM_GLOVES_GAUNTLETS:COMMON]
    [GLOVES:ITEM_GLOVES_GLOVES:COMMON]
    [GLOVES:ITEM_GLOVES_MITTENS:COMMON]
    [SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SHOES:COMMON]
    [SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_BOOTS:COMMON]
    [SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_BOOTS_LOW:COMMON]
    [SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SOCKS:COMMON]
    [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_PANTS:COMMON]
    [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_GREAVES:COMMON]
    [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_LEGGINGS:COMMON]
    [SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_SHIELD]
    [SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_BUCKLER]
    [SIEGEAMMO:ITEM_SIEGEAMMO_BALLISTA]
    [trAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_GIANTAXEBLADE]
    [trAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_ENORMOUSCORKSCREW]
    [trAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_SPIKEDBALL]
    [trAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_LARGESERRATEDDISC]
    [trAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE]
    [TOY:GAMEBOY]
    [TOY:XBOX]
    [TOY:TV]
    [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_FLUTE]
    [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_TRUMPET]
    [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_HARP]
    [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_DRUM]
    [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_PICCOLO]
    [CLOTHING]
    [SUBTERRANEAN_CLOTHING]
    [CURRENCY_BY_YEAR]
    [CURRENCY:COPPER:1]
    [CURRENCY:SILVER:5]
    [CURRENCY:GOLD:15]
        [SELECT_SYMBOL:WAR:NAME_WAR]
    [SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:WAR:VIOLENT]
    [SELECT_SYMBOL:BATTLE:NAME_BATTLE]
    [SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:BATTLE:VIOLENT]
    [SELECT_SYMBOL:SIEGE:NAME_SIEGE]
    [SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:SIEGE:VIOLENT]
    [SELECT_SYMBOL:ROAD:NAME_ROAD]
    [SELECT_SYMBOL:TUNNEL:NAME_TUNNEL]
    [SELECT_SYMBOL:BRIDGE:NAME_BRIDGE]
    [SELECT_SYMBOL:WALL:NAME_WALL]
    [SELECT_SYMBOL:REMAINING:EVIL]
    [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:DOMESTIC]
    [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:FLOWERY]
    [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:HOLY]
    [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:PEACE]
    [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:NEGATOR]
    [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:GOOD]
    [METAL_PREF]
    [GEM_PREF]
    [STONE_PREF]
    [INDOOR_FARMING]
    [USE_CAVE_ANIMALS]
    [USE_ANIMAL_PRODUCTS]
    [COMMON_DOMESTIC_PACK]
    [COMMON_DOMESTIC_PULL]
    [COMMON_DOMESTIC_MOUNT]
    [COMMON_DOMESTIC_PET]
    [USE_MISC_PROCESSED_WOOD_PRODUCTS]
    [EQUIPMENT_IMPROVEMENTS]
    [ART_IMAGE_ELEMENT_MODIFIER:PLANT:64]
    [ART_IMAGE_ELEMENT_MODIFIER:TREE:64]
    [ITEM_IMPROVEMENT_MODIFIER:RINGS_HANGING:64]
    [ITEM_IMPROVEMENT_MODIFIER:BANDS:384]
    [ITEM_IMPROVEMENT_MODIFIER:SPIKES:384]
    [ADVENTURE_TIER:4]
    [FRIENDLY_COLOR:1:0:1]
    [DEFAULT_SITE_TYPE:CAVE_DETAILED]
    [liKES_SITE:CAVE_DETAILED]
    [LEADER_TYPE:KING]
    [SITE_LEADER_TYPE:STANDARD]
    [START_BIOME:MOUNTAIN]
    [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_FOREST:1]
    [BIOME_SUPPORT:MOUNTAIN:3]
    [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_GRASSLAND:1]
    [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_SAVANNA:1]
    [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_SHRUBLAND:1]
    [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_RIVER:1]
    [DIPLOMAT]
    [DIPLOMAT_BODYGUARDS]
    [MERCHANT_BODYGUARDS]
    [ACTIVE_SEASON:AUTUMN]
    [SIEGER]
    [MAX_STARTING_CIV_NUMBER:100]
    [START_GROUP_NUMBER:10]
    [MAX_POP_NUMBER:10000]
    [MAX_SITE_POP_NUMBER:120]
    [RELIGION:PANTHEON]
    [RELIGION_SPHERE:FORTRESSES]
    [RELIGION_SPHERE:JEWELS]
    [RELIGION_SPHERE:METALS]
    [RELIGION_SPHERE:MINERALS]
    [RELIGION_SPHERE:MOUNTAINS]
    [RELIGION_SPHERE:WEALTH]
    [MAYOR]
    [WANDERER]
    [BEAST_HUNTER]
    [SCOUT]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:MINER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:CARPENTER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:BOWYER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCUTTER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:ENGRAVER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:MASON]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_CARETAKER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_TRAINER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:HUNTER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:TRAPPER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_DISSECTOR]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:FURNACE_OPERATOR]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:WEAPONSMITH]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:ARMORER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:BLACKSMITH]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:METALCRAFTER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:GEM_CUTTER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:GEM_SETTER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCRAFTER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:STONECRAFTER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:LEATHERWORKER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:BONE_CARVER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:WEAVER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:CLOTHIER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:GLASSMAKER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:STRAND_EXTRACTOR]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:FISHERMAN]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:FISH_DISSECTOR]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:FISH_CLEANER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:CHEESE_MAKER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:MILKER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:COOK]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:THRESHER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:MILLER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:BUTCHER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:TANNER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:DYER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:PLANTER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:HERBALIST]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:BREWER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:SOAP_MAKER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:POTASH_MAKER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:LYE_MAKER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:WOOD_BURNER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:MECHANIC]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:SIEGE_ENGINEER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:SIEGE_OPERATOR]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:PUMP_OPERATOR]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:CLERK]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:ADMINISTRATOR]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:TRADER]
    [PERMITTED_JOB:ARCHITECT]
    [WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:TUNNEL]
    [WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:BRIDGE]
    [WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:ROAD]
    [ETHIC:KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
    [ETHIC:KILL_NEUTRAL:ACCEPTABLE]
    [ETHIC:KILL_ENEMY:ACCEPTABLE]
    [ETHIC:KILL_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]
    [ETHIC:KILL_PLANT:ACCEPTABLE]
    [ETHIC:TORTURE_AS_EXAMPLE:ACCEPTABLE]
    [ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_INFORMATION:ACCEPTABLE]
    [ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_FUN:ACCEPTABLE]
    [ETHIC:TORTURE_ANIMALS:ACCEPTABLE]
    [ETHIC:TREASON:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
    [ETHIC:OATH_BREAKING:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
    [ETHIC:LYING:ACCEPTABLE]
    [ETHIC:VANDALISM:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
    [ETHIC:TRESPASSING:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
    [ETHIC:THEFT:ACCEPTABLE]
    [ETHIC:ASSAULT:ACCEPTABLE]
    [ETHIC:SLAVERY:ACCEPTABLE]
    [ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_OTHER:ACCEPTABLE]
    [ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:ACCEPTABLE]
    [ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAME_RACE:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
    [ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAPIENT:ACCEPTABLE]
    [ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]
    [ITEM_THEIF]
    [WILL_ACCEPT_TRIBUTE]
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And you can't eat them, either, sadly. Even though it'd make sieges so much more fun; dwarves lining the walls, drooling and carrying sharp knives and forks, ready for the upcoming meals.

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Re: Hamsters
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2008, 05:44:59 pm »

First off, code tags are your friends
Code: [Select]
They're very useful for large amounts of code.
I see a lot wrong right off the bat. First off, remove pet and pet values from the intelligent race. Try and base your first intelligent race off the creature_standard.txt entry for humans rather than a wild animal. You don't need [LARGE_ROAMING] for an INTELLIGENT race, etc...

remove [NO_WINTER][NO_AUTUMN] tags for the sake of testing from both of them. Allow them to live longer too. They might die off from having too short lifespans and getting killed off during world gen from being so weak.

Lastly: You need to look at your errorlog.txt - that will probably tell you a lot of what is wrong. You misspelled THIEF in the ITEM_THIEF tag of entity_default. The errorlog will tell you what shit is obviously broken.

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Re: Hamsters
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2008, 01:59:08 am »

Also, your hamsters are still giving birth to hoary marmot pups. >_>

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Re: Hamsters
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2008, 03:17:02 am »

Hamster_Intelligence should really be Hamstermen... you know, like antmen and cave swallow men and batmen... hee hee.
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So there's that, as well. It looks like the only chronic problems that water can't cure are nausea and cave spider bites.
Which, coincidentally enough, can be cured by magma.

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Re: Hamsters
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2008, 11:59:13 am »

Did you join just because of this topic?  :o
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And you can't eat them, either, sadly. Even though it'd make sieges so much more fun; dwarves lining the walls, drooling and carrying sharp knives and forks, ready for the upcoming meals.

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Re: Hamsters
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2008, 01:32:46 pm »

Also, your hamsters are still giving birth to hoary marmot pups. >_>
Mr. Hamster has become enraged.
Hoary Marmot cancels adultery; interrupted by Hamster.
Mrs. Hamster cancels adultery; interrupted by Hamster.
Hoary Marmot has passed away.
Mrs. Hamster has passed away.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2008, 01:34:52 pm by Hectonkhyres »
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And now the thread is about starfish porn.
...originally read that as 'perpetual motion pants' and thought how could I have missed this??

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Re: Hamsters
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2008, 11:41:01 pm »

Remove [CURIOUSBEAST_GUZZLER] from the intelligent one
I don't know if it's practical to have clusters of 20 hamsters running around your fortress, especially if you have any cage traps set up outside at all, you'll capture way too many.  Or if you have hunters, they'll end up doing lots of cancels of bringing back kills because of running into more hamsters.
The [POPULATION_NUMBER:80:110] and [CLUSTER_NUMBER:7:20] should also be removed from the intelligent entry.
Good idea  ;)
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Re: Hamsters
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2008, 12:23:34 am »

Hamsters should really be vermin sized, you have some pretty huge hamsters there. They're like guinea pig sized.
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Re: Hamsters
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2008, 06:24:41 am »

Did you join just because of this topic?  :o

No I've been around for a while... though I commented BECAUSE of the topic. Does that count?
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So there's that, as well. It looks like the only chronic problems that water can't cure are nausea and cave spider bites.
Which, coincidentally enough, can be cured by magma.

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Re: Hamsters
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2008, 12:14:58 pm »

"blowsters"???!!!

That's not the way to spell.
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Re: Hamsters
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2008, 01:29:45 pm »

We need some miniature giant space hamsters.

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Re: Hamsters
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2008, 06:00:46 pm »

"blowsters"???!!!

That's not the way to spell.
If they are giving birth to hoary marmots, I think 'blowsters' might very well be the right word.
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And now the thread is about starfish porn.
...originally read that as 'perpetual motion pants' and thought how could I have missed this??

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Re: Hamsters
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2008, 06:14:18 pm »

We need some miniature giant space hamsters.

Hamster strikes Urist steelchannel in the left eye!
It is poked out!
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Re: Hamsters
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2008, 11:04:04 pm »

We need some miniature giant space hamsters.

The spinning hamster strikes Urist steelchannel in the left eye!
It is poked out!

Fixed.  :P
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