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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #32160 on: June 23, 2019, 07:37:24 am »

Forgive my ignorance, what's a cultivation novel?
2,500+ chapters about slapping faces, sneering, and the author's chronic inability to decide how anything in the metaphysics actually works.
That's the stereotype, but there's xuanhuan that isn't anything like that. Lord of Mysteries or City of Sin, for example.
Or Ze Tian Ji. When I nitpick stuff, it's usually because I care enough to think about it.
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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #32161 on: June 23, 2019, 11:26:43 am »

Forgive my ignorance, what's a cultivation novel?
2,500+ chapters about slapping faces, sneering, and the author's chronic inability to decide how anything in the metaphysics actually works.
That's the stereotype, but there's xuanhuan that isn't anything like that. Lord of Mysteries or City of Sin, for example.
Or Ze Tian Ji. When I nitpick stuff, it's usually because I care enough to think about it.
I mean, you'd be hard pressed to find xianxia that isn't exactly what you described. That's a genre that's pretty thoroughly characterized by adherence to formula. Or in technical terms, it's up its own ass.

Also I took that Ze Tian Ji comment as an endorsement but it looks like the translation stalled years ago with less than two hundred chapters. Oh well.
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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #32162 on: June 24, 2019, 05:00:25 pm »

Forgive my ignorance, what's a cultivation novel?
2,500+ chapters about slapping faces, sneering, and the author's chronic inability to decide how anything in the metaphysics actually works.
That's the stereotype, but there's xuanhuan that isn't anything like that. Lord of Mysteries or City of Sin, for example.
Or Ze Tian Ji. When I nitpick stuff, it's usually because I care enough to think about it.
I mean, you'd be hard pressed to find xianxia that isn't exactly what you described. That's a genre that's pretty thoroughly characterized by adherence to formula. Or in technical terms, it's up its own ass.

Also I took that Ze Tian Ji comment as an endorsement but it looks like the translation stalled years ago with less than two hundred chapters. Oh well.

The translation is finished. It's also up under the name "Way of Choices". Here is one site that has the full 1183 chapters + afterword up in a decent format.

Incidentally boxnovel is probably the best site right now for CN/JP/KR web novels since so much is being shat on by those Qidan International assholes.
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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #32163 on: June 24, 2019, 06:08:56 pm »

A miserable pile of paper and indecisiveness!

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« Reply #32164 on: June 24, 2019, 11:06:49 pm »

Forgive my ignorance, what's a cultivation novel?
2,500+ chapters about slapping faces, sneering, and the author's chronic inability to decide how anything in the metaphysics actually works.
That's the stereotype, but there's xuanhuan that isn't anything like that. Lord of Mysteries or City of Sin, for example.
Or Ze Tian Ji. When I nitpick stuff, it's usually because I care enough to think about it.
I mean, you'd be hard pressed to find xianxia that isn't exactly what you described. That's a genre that's pretty thoroughly characterized by adherence to formula. Or in technical terms, it's up its own ass.

Also I took that Ze Tian Ji comment as an endorsement but it looks like the translation stalled years ago with less than two hundred chapters. Oh well.

The translation is finished. It's also up under the name "Way of Choices". Here is one site that has the full 1183 chapters + afterword up in a decent format.

Incidentally boxnovel is probably the best site right now for CN/JP/KR web novels since so much is being shat on by those Qidan International assholes.
Oh, I was looking on novelupdates but I guess just nobody updated novelupdates.

To be fair to Qidian, they are the ones actually funding the translations, and boxnovel usually just mirrors what QI pays for. I would be content to support them despite their decidedly capitalistic tendencies if not for the fact that their website is utter ass on mobile.
I think the best for Chinese and Korean is wuxiaworld, since they not only do their own translations but also ensure a certain level of quality. Japanese translations are still spread individually across loads of different people's personal blogs, or at most groups of only a few people. I ascribe that to economics; a Chinese translator can make a middle class wage off of the kind of money that westerners are happy to commit to a patreon, and there are people in Korea of similar economic status, but Japanese translation can only exceed the income of a hobby project for someone who really breaks out – and even then, only barely.
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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #32165 on: June 25, 2019, 05:52:45 am »

Forgive my ignorance, what's a cultivation novel?
2,500+ chapters about slapping faces, sneering, and the author's chronic inability to decide how anything in the metaphysics actually works.
That's the stereotype, but there's xuanhuan that isn't anything like that. Lord of Mysteries or City of Sin, for example.
Or Ze Tian Ji. When I nitpick stuff, it's usually because I care enough to think about it.
I mean, you'd be hard pressed to find xianxia that isn't exactly what you described. That's a genre that's pretty thoroughly characterized by adherence to formula. Or in technical terms, it's up its own ass.

Also I took that Ze Tian Ji comment as an endorsement but it looks like the translation stalled years ago with less than two hundred chapters. Oh well.

The translation is finished. It's also up under the name "Way of Choices". Here is one site that has the full 1183 chapters + afterword up in a decent format.

Incidentally boxnovel is probably the best site right now for CN/JP/KR web novels since so much is being shat on by those Qidan International assholes.
Oh, I was looking on novelupdates but I guess just nobody updated novelupdates.

To be fair to Qidian, they are the ones actually funding the translations, and boxnovel usually just mirrors what QI pays for. I would be content to support them despite their decidedly capitalistic tendencies if not for the fact that their website is utter ass on mobile.
I think the best for Chinese and Korean is wuxiaworld, since they not only do their own translations but also ensure a certain level of quality. Japanese translations are still spread individually across loads of different people's personal blogs, or at most groups of only a few people. I ascribe that to economics; a Chinese translator can make a middle class wage off of the kind of money that westerners are happy to commit to a patreon, and there are people in Korea of similar economic status, but Japanese translation can only exceed the income of a hobby project for someone who really breaks out – and even then, only barely.

I was okay with it when it was just holding chapters for a week or so to get some people to pay for early access. When they started making popular novels wholly premium-access and banking hundreds of chapters behind the paywall for months I lost patience. When I found out they were also doing shit like stealing and reposting English originals from sites like RR with a paywall on them, I lost whatever remaining sympathy I might have had. I'm pretty sure they've also C&Ded legitimate third-party fanlations of a lot of stuff.

They're the worst sort of predatory monopoly.

WW isn't bad.
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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #32166 on: June 25, 2019, 08:00:27 am »

Why do in-universe people say that the two powers are similar?
As far as I can recall he basically spelled it out for Bakuhatsu, but I can’t remember the others.

"muscle form".
If he had it, wouldn’t he pass it?
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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #32167 on: June 25, 2019, 08:48:15 am »


In general, and I must admit my memory is very fussy, but my feeling of how I remember it going is that while the kids doesn't seem to notice anything several adults have at least recognised a similarity, even if they don't draw any further conclusions. I seem to remember Mightymight even speaking about it with someone at some point, but I might be mixing who it was with up with one of the few peoples who are in on how the power works.

In related news, I recently got told many of the characters names are puns of sorts. It's s shame they don't translate well.

As for anime in general, I've been sort of binging on Attack on Titan recently (yes, I know, give hundred years after everybody else stopped talking about it, as usual). I like it so far.

I'm not particularly fond of how it handles side characters though. I mean, it's clear from the start that it wants to be a "no character is safe!" kind of show, so I went in thinking it would be. But it still feels like there is this huge gap-of-risk between the "core characters" (not just the main characters but the most prominent supportive cast too) and everybody else. And it sort of ruins the suspense when you know that there's no chance at all that any of the newest characters introduced is going to last long at all because the show still wants to kill off *actual* characters, not just unknown faces. I'm a bit into season 2 now and if I remember correctly I don't think a single non-core character introduced is still alive at this point, while only two characters who I felt belonged in the "core" has died.

I do think that in an episode or two that's going to be three, though (it's been stacking up the implication-by-narrative-convention pretty heavily against one guy, so I have strong feelings he's going to due, but likely in a heroic sacrifice or something), so two is not entirely fair. But still.
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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #32168 on: June 25, 2019, 09:07:46 am »

Blech.

At the request of one of my co-workers kids, I pulled the complete (to date) One Piece collection. 

I must say, this series is the longest running deus ex machina I have ever bore witness to.
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« Reply #32169 on: June 25, 2019, 09:10:31 am »

In related news, I recently got told many of the characters names are puns of sorts. It's s shame they don't translate well.
Pretty sure it’s a fundamental rule of anime that anyone with green hair has to have “midori” somewhere in their name.

Bakugou’s name in English would be something like “Ace Boomer”. They’re all patently ridiculous.
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« Reply #32170 on: June 25, 2019, 11:01:53 am »

I finally got around to starting Utena after finding it on an old drive. The translations of the songs is so bad that I almost don't want to know what a coherent version of them would be like.

Also, I also love the stupid pun names characters in anime get.
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« Reply #32171 on: June 25, 2019, 11:57:49 am »

Blech.

At the request of one of my co-workers kids, I pulled the complete (to date) One Piece collection. 

I must say, this series is the longest running deus ex machina I have ever bore witness to.
What do you mean, "longest running deus ex machina"? Isn't One Piece the series where everything is foreshadowed?
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« Reply #32172 on: June 25, 2019, 12:21:54 pm »

I mean "Oh no, it looks like luffy will lose-- NOPE! LAST MINUTE REVERSAL!"

(ad nauseum)

Notable examples:

Millennial dragon arc-- Oh no! They killed the senile millennial dragon! Oh wait, he called lots of friends! Also-- Look! Sunken island suddenly surfaces! YAY! (also, Reincarnation is a thing! Dead senile dragon isn't really dead, just reborn magically! double yay!)

Louge town arc:  Oh no! The other pirates have Luffy pinned on the execution platform, and are gonna off the kid! Oh wait-- SUDDEN LIGHTNING STRIKE FROM FREAK STORM! Luffy is made of rubber, and is unharmed! YAY! (also, said freak storm propels Luffy's ship out of reach of the marines out to capture him! Thank goodness for deus ex machina!)

etc.


Pretty much every single episode follows that format-- It's one continual deluge of deus ex machina.
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« Reply #32173 on: June 25, 2019, 01:03:42 pm »

To be fair, Luffy being shockproof is something you could guess, being rubber and all; The lightning and storm were probably made by Dragon, so not just a Protagonist-Friendly Natural Disaster, even if it had no foreshadowing the first time.
And the millennial dragon arc is non-canon, so it makes sense that it sucks.
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« Reply #32174 on: June 25, 2019, 01:14:09 pm »

I always found it to be in the vein of DBZ and the like, where everyone is completely doomed and then the hero just sort of decides its time to win now and does so.
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