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Reelya

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« Reply #31425 on: August 09, 2018, 01:21:44 am »


Wait, quick check suggests it was Macross Plus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uULjjKgHPkE

Which is stupid but fantastic and reminds me of Eureka 7 for my giant robot suggestion.

That's one of the Macross Frontier movies, not Plus*. Personally, I didn't really like those movies, I liked the TV version of Frontier a lot more. The problem is condensing down a character-driven story into a couple of movies, it really removes a lot of the character interaction and plot development.

* Also I'm not sure you've seen Macross Plus, or Frontier, since either way you should have notice it's not Plus. Macross Plus is old school 2D animation, whereas that's a recent 3D animation.  Additionally, Macross Plus is all about a couple of test pilots flying next-gen fighters for rival aeronautics companies and doesn't feature space battles, giant robots, or aliens, or stuff like what is shown in that video.  Macross Plus is all one-on-one dogfighting, in atmosphere.
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« Reply #31426 on: August 11, 2018, 12:17:31 am »

Evangelion: 4.0 any day now.


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People still watch the rebuilds?  :P

I don't think I ever finished 3.0. Apparently, there was a gay piano and Kaworu got one billion percent destroyed, but I don't recall it. I definitely watched the first bits, but once it dropped pretty much the whole Eva setting and replaced with with some weird waterworld/XCOM2/TTGL crossover with maximum edge, I just stopped caring.

Eva was good, but the rebuilds don't really feel right. I don't think they... FEEL like Eva any more.
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« Reply #31427 on: August 11, 2018, 01:05:53 pm »

Code Geass is pretty darn great as far as mecha shows go. Plenty of giant robot fights as well as neat tactics and strategy. It isn't particularly evangelion-like, but I would easily consider it one of the best mecha anime out there.
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« Reply #31428 on: August 13, 2018, 01:22:02 am »


Wait, quick check suggests it was Macross Plus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uULjjKgHPkE

Which is stupid but fantastic and reminds me of Eureka 7 for my giant robot suggestion.

That's one of the Macross Frontier movies, not Plus*. Personally, I didn't really like those movies, I liked the TV version of Frontier a lot more. The problem is condensing down a character-driven story into a couple of movies, it really removes a lot of the character interaction and plot development.

* Also I'm not sure you've seen Macross Plus, or Frontier, since either way you should have notice it's not Plus. Macross Plus is old school 2D animation, whereas that's a recent 3D animation.  Additionally, Macross Plus is all about a couple of test pilots flying next-gen fighters for rival aeronautics companies and doesn't feature space battles, giant robots, or aliens, or stuff like what is shown in that video.  Macross Plus is all one-on-one dogfighting, in atmosphere.
Hell if I know, I thought the one with the next gen fighter battles was Macross 7 for some reason, but that is indeed the one I've seen besides all the old harmony gold'D stuff back in the day.
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« Reply #31429 on: August 13, 2018, 02:49:07 am »

Macross Zero is the one thing to consider checking out. It's a short and self-contained prequel to the original Macross, and is visually stunning as fuck - despite being 15 years old, Zero still blows away most new TV animes in terms of mecha battle animation.

Macross 7 is ... amazing. Fucked up. Mind you, it's got plenty of flaws and is a love or hate sort of thing. If you're familiar with it, it's not something you'd ever confuse for any other anime, even any other Macross anime.
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« Reply #31430 on: August 13, 2018, 05:47:07 pm »

So.

Giant mecha.

What's worth watching? If it's bizarre or Evangelion-esque, that's just great.



Well hey there!

Lemme pull together a list of what I can think of off the top of my head. There's quite a variety of mecha out there, and so there's a lot of places you could start from depending on your preferences in media.

Before we start, if you're not familiar with the terms, mecha is considered to be divided into two sub-genres, real robot, and super robot. It's not really clearly defined and in some ways are more art movements than genres so there's a lot of debate regarding the terms, but for simplicity's sake super robots are shows where the mecha are treated like super heroes and run on pulp and old comic book logic, while real robot shows are ones where the mecha are treated as industrial machines, and tend to run on 80s scifi logic. Eva is considered a hybrid between Super and Real in a lot of ways, but can be argued to lean more towards the super side due to the way its story is structured to be reminiscent of monster of the week super robot series for a lot of its run.


This is more of a general mecha list than an Eva-like list it should be noted, though there are a few I put in there. For some other shows that are compared to Eva but don't know well enough to list here, check out RahXephon or Argento Soma.

Some other shows I've heard favorable recs for but don't know that well are DaiGuard, Martian Successor Nadesico, Overman King Gainer, Fafner in the Azure, or GunxSword
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« Reply #31431 on: August 13, 2018, 06:18:47 pm »

*mumbles vaguely* No mention of build fighters?

... also I totally keep getting an intermittent urge to sit down and watch through big o. I'm pretty sure I've seen most or all of it (or at least what aired on toonami back in the day), but I'm equally sure I've never seen it in order. Which makes for odd lingering impressions.

Oh yeah, and fyi some of the escaflowne music is pretty incredible. Forget exactly which incarnation of it, but I've got a couple (organ pub, one of the nonsense cat ones) that have lingered in my music playlists for like over a decade now. Good stuff.
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« Reply #31432 on: August 13, 2018, 06:22:31 pm »

Eh I left it out since even though Build Fighters is perfectly fun on its own its more enjoyable if you have one or two Gundam series under your belt before watching it. But yeah, GBF is super fun and awesome.
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« Reply #31433 on: August 13, 2018, 06:56:19 pm »

Spoiler: Big wordy list im so sorry

Don't be sorry, it was a very good list. Makes it hard to come up with much else that hasn't been mentioned:

Suisei no Gargantia
https://myanimelist.net/anime/16524/Suisei_no_Gargantia
12 episodes: An interesting blend of mecha and slice of life with nice visuals. I'm hand-waving some of the plot details to avoid spoilers, but it's about a clone warrior/mecha pilot from a high-tech military space society who crashes on a waterworld where people live as scavengers and pirates. It's about a culture clash and rediscovering your humanity.

Sidonia no Kishi
https://myanimelist.net/anime/19775/Sidonia_no_Kishi
It's about pilots flying mecha to defend a deep-space colony. The interesting points here are that it's a colony ship, and they haven't had any contact with other humans for centuries. It's a little like a grittier version of Macross Frontier.

Oh yeah, and fyi some of the escaflowne music is pretty incredible.

Escaflowne was good, just don't make the mistake of watching the Escaflowne movie. It's a condensed "re-telling" that changes all the major plot points and waters down all the character inter-relations (a major point to watch Escaflowne at all) to try and cram them into a 90 minute film. The whole movie was pretty excruciating and in fact harmed my overall memories of Escaflowne.
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« Reply #31434 on: August 13, 2018, 09:10:39 pm »

There's also a new mecha anime on the block: Planet With.

https://www.crunchyroll.com/planet-with

I've not watched it yet, but it has some big names working on it, so I imagine it'll be pretty good.
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« Reply #31435 on: August 13, 2018, 09:34:32 pm »

Sidonia is by the guy who did Blame! so it's fantastic designs and scenery porn everywhere... even in deep space.

Also Eureka 7 has like six main love stories, only like one of which isn't tragic, and kickass music overlaid onto the giant surfing mecha battles.
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« Reply #31436 on: August 14, 2018, 03:40:53 am »

For Gundam, just be aware there's Univeral Century Gundam which is all one setting, that starts with the original Gundam 0079, but there are a lot of little side-stories that you can watch for that without needing to see the main sequence at all.

However, a lot of the other Gundams are "reboots" which are effectively different universes. They were created to try and draw in new generations of viewers without needing to know any of the main stuff. Some of them may or may not be set thousands of years later in the main sequence universe, so they're as good as separate settings.

As for other non-mecha sci-fi, you can't go wrong with Space Battleship Yamato, which was the series which inspired all the stuff of the Gundam and Macross era. The original 1974 version holds up surprisingly well and gives you a great retro sci fi vibe. The plot is that aliens have devastated Earth, so the government secretly rebuilds the WWII battleship Yamato into a starship using alien assistance. The thing is also known for a huge energy weapon/cannon running the full length of the ship. Historically, the real Yamato was the heaviest battleship ever created.

There's also a 2012 Yamato remake, which is the same story except with modern everything. However being so "modern" it loses some of the flavour. Personally, I'd suggest to delve into the original 1974 version for the full experience, there are also additional seasons not covered in the remake. Plus it has funky 1970s music, flared space suits and big hair. "Enemy ships on long range scanners. Quick, pilots launch the fighters" waka-wa waka-wa waka-wa da-nah
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« Reply #31437 on: August 14, 2018, 03:51:00 am »

I'd just like to add that, personally, I'd reccommend Iron Blooded Orphans over Gundam 00. Mostly because it avoids the gundam curse of the shitty/batshit insane second season. It's not as strong as the first one mind, but it's good solid stuff. Also a bit more mature in certain aspects, and a lot more darker in others.
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« Reply #31438 on: August 14, 2018, 03:56:07 am »

One of the notable ones is Gundam Wing. It's one of those self-contained ones that's not connected to the original setting. I've heard people check it out then ask "why the hell is this so popular". There's only one actual reason - it was the first Gundam to actually get dubbed into English in around 2000. So "it was available" explains why Wing was inexplicably more popular than other better Gundam series.

Another one that hasn't come up but I'm interested to check out one day are the series that lead to Voltron and the like. That never aired anywhere I lived, but Voltron is like Robotech - it's two unrelated animes mashed together. The really funny thing is that this was back during the giant robot boom and one of the series they asked the Japanese for was "the one with the lion" robot. Except there was another one with lion-shaped mecha distributed by the same company, and they got sent the wrong one. But, ever resourceful, the American anime-butchers just didn't give a fuck and adapted the incorrect footage they'd been sent anyway. So, they asked for two shows to mash together, only got one of the correct ones, but did the mash-up just the same.

EDIT: Also, I can't forget Dominion Tank Police. It's a crime show about a Police unit issued tanks to deal with rising crime. Except they use the tanks for literally everything, and everyone hates them. Shoplifter? Drive a tank through the wall of the shop to stop them. Also, the tank's metal tracks completely wreck the asphalt, destroying the roads. I just watched a bit of Dominion Tank Police on Youtube, I'd forgotten how awesome the tanks are. Those are some seriously scary looking tanks.
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« Reply #31439 on: August 14, 2018, 06:20:16 am »

EDIT: Also, I can't forget Dominion Tank Police. It's a crime show about a Police unit issued tanks to deal with rising crime. Except they use the tanks for literally everything, and everyone hates them. Shoplifter? Drive a tank through the wall of the shop to stop them. Also, the tank's metal tracks completely wreck the asphalt, destroying the roads. I just watched a bit of Dominion Tank Police on Youtube, I'd forgotten how awesome the tanks are. Those are some seriously scary looking tanks.

Are you sure that wasn't a documentary on the increasing militarization of American police?
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