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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13185 on: March 01, 2016, 07:42:42 pm »

I no longer worry about being banished because its never happened to me and I figure it would be an entertaining death if nothing else.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13186 on: March 01, 2016, 11:11:57 pm »

Elven halls usually aren't that bad[I haven't played the new condensed 0.18 one though]. If I die there, its usually because I don't have Airstrike/Iron Shot/Invisibility to deal with the Hall of Blades and end up getting sliced and diced. Or I guess to a sorcerer's Corrosive Bolt, since I rarely end up with an rCorr item that I can wear consistently. Have gotten banished there a few times, but managed to escape all but once.
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« Reply #13187 on: March 02, 2016, 12:15:22 am »

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.1 (tiles) character file.

210054 Arcas the Gelid (level 18, -8/85 HPs)
             Began as a Deep Elf Ice Elementalist on Feb 29, 2016.
             Was the Champion of Sif Muna.
             Killed from afar by a spectral elf (36 damage)
             ... with a bolt of negative energy
             ... summoned by a deep elf death mage
             ... on Level 2 of the Elven Halls on Mar 1, 2016.
             The game lasted 05:21:43 (58725 turns).

Arcas the Gelid (Deep Elf Ice Elementalist)        Turns: 58725, Time: 05:21:44

HP  -8/85        AC 23     Str 10      XL: 18   Next: 12%
MP   2/36        EV 20     Int 26      God: Sif Muna [******]
Gold 1692        SH 13     Dex 18      Spells: 11 memorised,  4 levels left

rFire  x . .     SeeInvis .     r - staff of energy
rCold  + . .     Rnd*Rage +     G - +0 troll leather armour {Snorg}
rNeg   . . .     Conserve .     F - +2 buckler {reflect}
rPois  .         rCorr    .     (helmet restricted)
rElec  .         rRot     .     N - +2 cloak
SustAb . .       Spirit   .     T - +2 pair of gloves {Dex+3}
rMut   .         Warding  .     Y - +0 pair of boots
Saprov . . .     Stasis   .     (no amulet)
MR     +....                    h - ring "Alunwuudgh" {Str+5 Dex-1}
                                z - ring of ice

@: icy armour, repel missiles, drained, somewhat resistant to hostile
enchantments, fairly stealthy
A: antennae 1, berserk 1, carnivore 1, frail 2, low mp 1, shaggy fur 1, spit
poison 1, weak 1
a: Spit Poison, Channel Energy, Forget Spell, Renounce Religion
}: 1/15 runes: serpentine


You were on level 2 of the Elven Halls.
You worshipped Sif Muna.
Sif Muna was exalted by your worship.
You were hungry.

You visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and saw 34 of its levels.
You also visited: Labyrinth, Ossuary and Bailey.

You collected 3271 gold pieces.
You spent 1579 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 w - a +0 blowgun
 O - the +7,+5 scimitar of Flaming Death {flame, rPois rF++ rC- MR+}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It emits flame when wielded, causing extra injury to most foes and up to
   double damage against particularly susceptible opponents. Big, fiery blades
   are also staple armaments of hydra-hunters.
   
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It makes you vulnerable to cold.
   It protects you from poison.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
Missiles
 n - 5 needles of sleeping
 v - 52 poisoned needles
Armour
 F - a +2 buckler of reflection (worn)
 G - a +0 troll leather armour (worn) {Snorg}
 N - a +2 cloak (worn)
 T - a +2 pair of gloves of dexterity (worn)
 Y - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
Magical devices
 f - a wand of heal wounds (1)
 g - a wand of draining (7)
 p - a wand of teleportation (2)
 t - a wand of fireball (3)
 C - a wand of fire (2)
 M - a wand of teleportation (6)
Comestibles
 d - a rambutan
 k - 4 bread rations
 x - a lemon
 A - 2 meat rations
 J - an apple
Scrolls
 c - a scroll of fear
 i - 2 scrolls of recharging
 j - 2 scrolls of vulnerability
 q - 2 scrolls of summoning
 s - 7 scrolls of remove curse
 u - a scroll of blinking
 y - 6 scrolls of teleportation
 B - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 S - a scroll of immolation
 U - 2 scrolls of holy word
 X - 5 scrolls of identify
Jewellery
 h - the ring "Alunwuudgh" (right hand) {Str+5 Dex-1}
   (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   [ring of strength]
   It affects your strength (+5).
   It affects your dexterity (-1).
 o - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities
 z - a ring of ice (left hand)
 L - an uncursed amulet of conservation
 R - a +5 ring of evasion
Potions
 e - 6 potions of curing
 m - a potion of flight
 E - 2 potions of brilliance
 P - 3 potions of restore abilities
Books
 b - a book of Power   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Fulminant Prism                    Conjuration/Hexes            4
   Iskenderun's Mystic Blast          Conjuration                  4
   Venom Bolt                         Conjuration/Poison           5
   Bolt of Magma                      Conjuration/Fire/Earth       5
   Iron Shot                          Conjuration/Earth            6
   Orb of Destruction                 Conjuration                  7
 l - a book of the Warp   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Control Teleport                   Charms/Translocation         4
   *Phase Shift                       Translocation                5
   Warp Weapon                        Charms/Translocation         5
   Summon Forest                      Summoning/Translocation      5
   Dispersal                          Translocation                6
   Controlled Blink                   Translocation                7
   Disjunction                        Translocation                8
 D - a book of Ice   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Freezing Aura                      Charms/Ice                   2
   Metabolic Englaciation             Hexes/Ice                    5
   *Ozocubu's Refrigeration           Ice                          6
   *Bolt of Cold                      Conjuration/Ice              6
   *Freezing Cloud                    Conjuration/Ice/Air          6
   Simulacrum                         Ice/Necromancy               6
 H - a book of Spatial Translocations   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Apportation                        Translocation                1
   Blink                              Translocation                2
   Shroud of Golubria                 Charms/Translocation         2
   Portal Projectile                  Translocation                3
   Teleport Other                     Translocation                3
   Passage of Golubria                Translocation                4
 I - a book of Enchantments   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Cause Fear                         Hexes                        4
   Silence                            Hexes/Air                    5
   Tukima's Dance                     Hexes                        5
   Deflect Missiles                   Charms/Air                   6
   Haste                              Charms                       6
   Discord                            Hexes                        8
 K - a book of Death   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Corpse Rot                         Necromancy                   2
   Sublimation of Blood               Necromancy                   2
   Agony                              Necromancy                   5
   Dispel Undead                      Necromancy                   5
   Excruciating Wounds                Charms/Necromancy            5
   Bolt of Draining                   Conjuration/Necromancy       5
 W - a book of Annihilations   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Poison Arrow                       Conjuration/Poison           6
   Chain Lightning                    Conjuration/Air              8
   Lehudib's Crystal Spear            Conjuration/Earth            8
   Glaciate                           Conjuration/Ice              9
   Fire Storm                         Conjuration/Fire             9
Magical staves
 r - an uncursed staff of energy (weapon)
Miscellaneous
 Q - a crystal ball of energy
Rods
 a - a +2 rod of inaccuracy (9/9)
   (You found it in a labyrinth)


   Skills:
 - Level 10.0(9.2) Fighting
 - Level 7.0(6.2) Armour
 - Level 13.2(12.3) Dodging
 - Level 3.0(2.3) Stealth
 - Level 5.0(4.3) Shields
 - Level 14.0(13.1) Spellcasting
 - Level 12.0(11.1) Conjurations
 - Level 11.1(10.2) Charms
 - Level 13.0(12.1) Translocations
 - Level 16.0(15.0) Ice Magic
 + Level 8.0(7.2) Air Magic
 - Level 9.0(8.2) Invocations


You had 4 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Freeze                Ice            ####         0%          1    None
b - Throw Frost           Conj/Ice       ######       1%          2    None
c - Ozocubu's Armour      Chrm/Ice       #######...   1%          3    None
d - Throw Icicle          Conj/Ice       #######.     1%          4    None
e - Summon Ice Beast      Ice/Summ       ######..     1%          4    None
f - Swiftness             Chrm/Air       ######..     1%          2    None
g - Repel Missiles        Chrm/Air       ######       1%          2    None
h - Ozocubu's Refrigerat  Ice            #######...   1%          6    None
i - Bolt of Cold          Conj/Ice       #######...   2%          6    None
j - Phase Shift           Tloc           ######....   1%          5    None
k - Freezing Cloud        Conj/Ice/Air   #######...   8%          6    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (14/15)            Temple (1/1) D:7             Orc (4/4) D:12
    Elf (2/3) Orc:3          Lair (8/8) D:11         Shoals (0/5) Lair:5
  Snake (5/5) Lair:6        Slime (0/6) Lair:6     

Vaults: D:13-14     

Portals:
Trove: Elf:1 (give 17 scrolls of teleportation)

Annotations:
Elf:2 Nessos


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have a pair of small antennae on your head.
You tend to lose your temper in combat.
Your digestive system is specialised to digest meat.
You are very frail (-20% HP).
Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP).
You are covered in fur (AC +1).
You can spit poison.
You are weak. (Str -2)


Message History

You feel a surge of power! The shard of ice hits the spectral elf. The spectral elf partially resists.
The spectral elf is heavily damaged.
The spectral elf casts a spell at you.
The bolt of negative energy is repelled.
You channel some magical energy. You feel somewhat more hungry.
The spectral elf hits you but does no damage.
Unknown command.
Aiming: Throw Icicle
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f/p - spectral elf
Aim: a spectral elf, wielding a short sword and wearing a leather armour (heavily damaged)
You feel a surge of power! The shard of ice hits the spectral elf. The spectral elf partially resists.
The spectral elf is almost destroyed.
The spectral elf is infused with unholy energy.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The spectral elf draws life force from you and is healed!
The spectral elf hits you but does no damage.
The spectral elf beckons forth a restless soul!
The spectral elf points at you and mumbles some strange words.
The bolt of negative energy hits you! You feel drained.
You die...

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You could see a spectral elf and a lost soul.

Well, since we are talking about elven halls here, I just lost a deep elf Ice elementalist to a deep elf death mage. Well not exactly a death mage but his lost soul reincarnation (I killed the original with two bolts of cold). My guy was pretty good too, he had haste castable, he only needed the spell slots to memorize it. He had all those fancy books you see in the morgue. He had all of these awesome spells that only needed spell levels to be casted (I had put enough experience in the respective schools to get them castable). What I should have done was use my wand of teleportation, wand of heal wounds, last scroll of blinking, etc. ANYTHING other than just standing there channeling like an idiot!

If I had full mana I probably would have been able to beat him, but killing the death mage and his flunkies seriously drained me. What I hate about losing in runs like these is the fact that I know it's gonna be a while before I get a character this successful again.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13188 on: March 02, 2016, 12:16:48 am »

I no longer worry about being banished because its never happened to me and I figure it would be an entertaining death if nothing else.

Lucky. Sonja banishing me is now my main cause of mid-game death. Pretty sure she's killed me more times than Sigmund (who I actually find pretty easy).

On the other hand, one of my berserkers that got banished actually managed to snag like three levels and the rune (!), managing to escape at around L18. Whereupon they got their face punched in by the horde that had surrounded me prior.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13189 on: March 02, 2016, 01:35:06 am »

I no longer worry about being banished because its never happened to me and I figure it would be an entertaining death if nothing else.

Lucky. Sonja banishing me is now my main cause of mid-game death. Pretty sure she's killed me more times than Sigmund (who I actually find pretty easy).

Its Sonjas' curare needles that usually get me, if anything.



I honestly think that I'm finally becoming good at this game. Of my 0.17 high score list, six out of the top ten slots[One of which is even a 15-rune win], are all from this February or January. The top twenty are even more biased, with fifteen of them being from the past couple months. My highest scoring run, annoyingly, was literally the first 0.17 game I played AFTER the tournament.




@heydude6:

That always sucks. Although you were probably laden with enough mutations that it was a foregone conclusion. -20% HP on a Deep Elf makes you an honourary Felid, but without the speed and extra lives.

More unrelated, the syntax on your killers' attribution is kind of weird. It counts the ghost elf death mage as a creatured summoned by the death mage
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13190 on: March 02, 2016, 02:10:04 am »

Phew! Just got to level 22 on a ziggurat. Bailed out after having to fight 4 orbs of fire with almost no wand of healing charges left. I am terrified at what level 27 would look like.
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« Reply #13191 on: March 02, 2016, 07:44:05 am »

Phew! Just got to level 22 on a ziggurat. Bailed out after having to fight 4 orbs of fire with almost no wand of healing charges left. I am terrified at what level 27 would look like.

Well this is what lvl 26 looks like with the fire theme:

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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13192 on: March 02, 2016, 11:18:23 am »

Should I make sure I'm at level 26 before taking the Orb of Zot?  I've got a game going that looks like I might make it to it (I've only managed to pick it up once before).
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13193 on: March 02, 2016, 01:23:42 pm »

Phew! Just got to level 22 on a ziggurat. Bailed out after having to fight 4 orbs of fire with almost no wand of healing charges left. I am terrified at what level 27 would look like.

Well this is what lvl 26 looks like with the fire theme:

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Yep that's what I thought. Is it even possible to survive that? I had maxed out fire resistance and haste with spammed angels and I was still needing to constantly heal.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13194 on: March 02, 2016, 02:56:01 pm »

Phew! Just got to level 22 on a ziggurat. Bailed out after having to fight 4 orbs of fire with almost no wand of healing charges left. I am terrified at what level 27 would look like.

Well this is what lvl 26 looks like with the fire theme:

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Yep that's what I thought. Is it even possible to survive that? I had maxed out fire resistance and haste with spammed angels and I was still needing to constantly heal.
If you were worshiping a lategame god that grants kill regen, and spamming Glaciate, sure.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13195 on: March 02, 2016, 09:28:22 pm »

Phew! Just got to level 22 on a ziggurat. Bailed out after having to fight 4 orbs of fire with almost no wand of healing charges left. I am terrified at what level 27 would look like.

Well this is what lvl 26 looks like with the fire theme:

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Yep that's what I thought. Is it even possible to survive that? I had maxed out fire resistance and haste with spammed angels and I was still needing to constantly heal.

The only time I've gone more then halfway through a Ziggurat is on that one Dungeon Sprint map, but big AOE attacks. Tornado, Glaciate and Fire Storm are the big ones. Shatter works too, as long as most of the enemies aren't flying. Apocalypse, Disaster Area or even maybe Slouch would probably work too, although they all have prohibitive costs attached when you're not in Sprint. As for survival? Death's Door + Borgnjor's or worship of Makhleb[TSO might work too, for undead or demon floors] while killing all the things hella quick. Either being undead or statue/gargoyle would probably be needed against all the torment and sources of regeneration would help a lot, if your torment protection method doesn't preclude them.

TL;DR: This is where pure melee characters are at their weakest.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13196 on: March 02, 2016, 11:05:01 pm »

Woo I finally won.  :)  Gargoyle Fighter which is basically easy mode, but its the first time I managed to do it. 
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« Reply #13197 on: March 02, 2016, 11:38:18 pm »

Woo I finally won.  :)  Gargoyle Fighter which is basically easy mode, but its the first time I managed to do it.

Congrats! First win is always the most fun. :P And Gargoyle Fighter isn't exactly easy mode, either. They've got a lot of strengths, but they need to tread really carefully around a lot of things[Smiting, Hellfire & Earth Magic are the big ones]. I'd say they require no small amount of skill to maneuver properly, although they are very very effective when they are.



That said, my current character is a GrMo of Chei, using Unarmed Combat. And Gargoyles definitely have it easy in a few specific areas. The Shoals are really easy when you can fly and can't be drowned and the Snake Pits aren't nearly as hard with poison immunity. Since I've lost my fair share of characters to both sources, this is a big deal.

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WELP

I had no idea Octopode crushers could do that kind of damage, especially through very high AC. Took a bunch of damage from wading through waist-deep tentacled monstrocities to bop an annoying lich and then this kid showed up. I thought I'd at least try to kill it before blinking away and/or healing. Honestly, I kind of thought octopode crushers were a joke monster incapable of actual damage before this.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13198 on: March 03, 2016, 12:19:05 am »

My recent run has taught me that if you're worried about poison worship Zin.  Vitalization gives poison immunity and costs 1-2 piety so as long as you stop to pick up some gold now and again you can go through all of Snake/Spider without ever having it of.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13199 on: March 03, 2016, 03:41:49 am »

A question on dungeon sprints. Are these things meant to be only beatable with a certain race and class, after having knowledge of all the rooms beforehand?
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