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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #15960 on: March 31, 2010, 08:20:20 pm »

Yea, thats the real problem with multi-tile creatures that aren't square (like wagons), how do you keep it from breaking apart when it moves or even turns corners.

How to other rougelikes  handle this? If I recall right another one about space travel exist and you get to control a space ship.

You probably mean Privateer: Ascii Sector. Well it is a totally different story.
In space you don't have walls or channels or closed doors. You just move in the direction where the enemy is, no pathing involved at all.
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« Reply #15961 on: March 31, 2010, 08:25:22 pm »

Yea, thats the real problem with multi-tile creatures that aren't square (like wagons), how do you keep it from breaking apart when it moves or even turns corners.

How to other rougelikes  handle this? If I recall right another one about space travel exist and you get to control a space ship.



You probably mean Privateer: Ascii Sector. Well it is a totally different story.
In space you don't have walls or channels or closed doors. You just move in the direction where the enemy is, no pathing involved at all.

Woa, this is different from the one I was talking about, but it looks wicked sick, Is it anygood ? I might pass the time to DF 2010 with this
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« Reply #15962 on: March 31, 2010, 10:21:32 pm »

The anticipation is KILLING ME!
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« Reply #15963 on: March 31, 2010, 10:51:38 pm »

If the anticipation needs help, I'm available... >:D
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« Reply #15964 on: March 31, 2010, 11:12:35 pm »

So, anyone want to place bets on where the first new bugs will arise? I'm guessing it'll be in the noble/appointment system.
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« Reply #15965 on: March 31, 2010, 11:23:54 pm »

So, anyone want to place bets on where the first new bugs will arise? I'm guessing it'll be in the noble/appointment system.
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« Reply #15966 on: March 31, 2010, 11:33:18 pm »

Nah, anything new will have been bugtested to death. I'm thinking it's gonna be something subtle like a mix up with the new body plans turns rhesus macaques into furry ninja capable of eliminating even an admantine clad all-legendary champion.
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« Reply #15967 on: March 31, 2010, 11:34:58 pm »

I that happens, I'm keeping it. Monkey ninjas are simply too awesome to be a bug.
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« Reply #15968 on: April 01, 2010, 12:04:06 am »

So, anyone want to place bets on where the first new bugs will arise? I'm guessing it'll be in the noble/appointment system.

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« Reply #15969 on: April 01, 2010, 12:08:04 am »

I that happens, I'm keeping it. Monkey ninjas are simply too awesome to be a bug.

In my current soap fort, macaques are size 30, damblock 8, and I multiplied the cluster size by 10. It's best not to go outside during monkey season.
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« Reply #15970 on: April 01, 2010, 02:34:25 am »

Well, there really is no "first" bug. They all arrive in the same version. I'm thinking there will be some sort of unforeseen interaction involving mechanics.
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« Reply #15971 on: April 01, 2010, 02:46:39 am »

Well, there really is no "first" bug. They all arrive in the same version. I'm thinking there will be some sort of unforeseen interaction involving mechanics.
Without exaggerating much, I think that we can safely say that that is a large part of the very definition of a bug.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #15972 on: April 01, 2010, 02:48:14 am »

7 + 2 = 9

Can't wait.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #15973 on: April 01, 2010, 03:43:49 am »

I don't want to get confused, so I'll reply to the questions that I haven't answered in here, but please direct your comments up to the new release thread, and throughout the board!
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #15974 on: May 01, 2010, 05:18:04 am »

Below I've answered a few questions that haven't become more evident now that the release has been out for a bit.  And now it's time to let this thread drift down off the front page.

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Toady, is it possible we might see insurance or mutual aid societies in the future, where dwarfs can get together and help each other pay for expensive things (like, say better off family members allowing their poorer relatives to use their accounts or a group of farmers pooling their money to help pay the medical costs of an injured farmer)

The first step for that kind of thing would be having more subgroups in the fortress, which is definitely going to happen.  It should make the game more interesting.  After that, it'll really depend on how the subgroups work.  The largest groups like civilizations don't even do projects outside of world gen, and even then they don't involve any kind of resource pooling.  As that stuff is handled, whatever subgroups that go in might see some automatic benefits, but it'll depend on how it works.

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Toady, is it possible that you could start giving major versions (versions that are likely to break compatibility or where the game mechanics change significantly) non-version number names (think Ubuntu's name system) so that we can have an easy way of referring to versions that doesn't risk confusion (like "40d" might)? This would definitely help out on the wiki where we're trying to figure out how to deal with keeping data for different versions. And I'm sure it would help out with mods and utilities to have a nice way to state version aside from the numbers themselves.

He he he, the fewer nineteen or whatever month waits we have the better, so I don't really want to institutionalize this.  I also feel kind of weird about the names in general, but I guess some people don't like numbers either, especially since 0.31 is "less" than 40d...  I still feel weird about names though, like, when to have a new name or whether people want to name the game after animals or something.

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Is having a world surrounded by magma ever going to be an option ?

Ha ha ha, I guess that would be the first replacement for an ocean since we already have magma as the only other fluid, but it would take a bit of work to get water out of there so it's not a high priority.

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Will we see odd "partnerships" beyond the concept of non-hetrosexuality? Different species interacting?
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or even gods(true or false) that mate with mortals, fathering potential semi-divine heroes
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or even monsters anywhere between semi-megabeasts to super-megabeasts like the most horrible and powerful titans/forgotten beasts that the RNG can spit out.

Like half-elves and stuff?  We had a half-dwarf in a Threetoe story -- that kind of interbreeding seems like a traditional option.  It has the same issues as polymorphing and all that.  It needs to understand how to mix the creature definitions together, which is a project.  Demigods and minotaur-product type matings are also popular and involve the same issues if the baby isn't just a copy of the god's "race" or mortal parent's race.  I imagine once we've got some creature blenders together than can mix and match and average etc., it'll open some doors.

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Are the medical skills moodable? If not, why not? Provide examples.

Ha ha, no.  I'm not sure what a legendary crutch walker would do as a mood.  The surgeons and bone setters and suturers might work with the fell mood or the macabre mood.  It would certainly make them more creepy.  We'd obviously need electricity before they can make anything alive out of dead stuff, though I guess you don't need electricity to make living stuff out of stuff that's already alive, or something.

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Toady, do you have any plans for eventually differentatiating the different edible/non-edible organs and tissues that we're going to get out of butchery (e.g. more non-food uses, scraps for animals, cultural views regarding eating or not eating certain parts, creature distaste for some parts, etc.)?

Aside from putting them in the game for...  flavor, I didn't plan out anything specifically.  I'm sure it'll come up though.  Guts are fun.
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