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[Duke 2.0]

 Huh. First thing I do when I activate the DR is get an ammo pack to recharge the ringer. Everybody searches for you the first time around, but the second fake death you can escape wonderfully.

[Schilcote]

Huh. First thing I do when I activate the DR is get an ammo pack to recharge the ringer. Everybody searches for you the first time around, but the second fake death you can escape wonderfully.

Well, considering the two are usually right next to eachother...

[dragnar]

What? The DR doesn't give any damage reduction. Only the first blow, the one that "kills" the spy is reduced by it.

[Schilcote]

You mean something shouldn't die when I hit it six times after it's cloaked. This is a spy we're talking here, not a Heavy.

Six times.

If it's getting a medkit every time... yeah. Or do you mean one after another? If that's so, then how do you know you were hitting him?

[Soulwynd]

What? The DR doesn't give any damage reduction. Only the first blow, the one that "kills" the spy is reduced by it.

Uh, Sorry but you're wrong... DR reduces all incoming damage while active. You're nearly immortal while invisible.

Fun facts from the TF2 wiki:

The Spy will take only 10% damage from attacks while he is cloaked, including the initial triggering attack.

Using the Dead Ringer, It is possible to survive: a deadly fall (non-trigger), 16 stickies, taunt attacks, fully-charged headshots, backstabs, and the initial hit by a train or saw blade.

[Schilcote]

What? The DR doesn't give any damage reduction. Only the first blow, the one that "kills" the spy is reduced by it.

Uh, Sorry but you're wrong... DR reduces all incoming damage while active. You're nearly immortal while invisible.

Really? Very odd, in my experience a stray hit from a Heavy's minigun can kill you with the ringer out after it cloaks you. Strange. Are you sure that's not a typo?

[dragnar]

What? The DR doesn't give any damage reduction. Only the first blow, the one that "kills" the spy is reduced by it.

Uh, Sorry but you're wrong... DR reduces all incoming damage while active. You're nearly immortal while invisible.

Really? Very odd, in my experience a stray hit from a Heavy's minigun can kill you with the ringer out after it cloaks you. Strange. Are you sure that's not a typo?

Yeah, I know the initial blow won't kill you unless you only have a couple HP, otherwise you can take anything, but I don't use the DR because I never survive long enough to escape while cloaked. Some pyro always lights me on fire...

[Schilcote]

What? The DR doesn't give any damage reduction. Only the first blow, the one that "kills" the spy is reduced by it.

Uh, Sorry but you're wrong... DR reduces all incoming damage while active. You're nearly immortal while invisible.

Really? Very odd, in my experience a stray hit from a Heavy's minigun can kill you with the ringer out after it cloaks you. Strange. Are you sure that's not a typo?

Yeah, I know the initial blow won't kill you unless you only have a couple HP, otherwise you can take anything, but I don't use the DR because I never survive long enough to escape while cloaked. Some pyro always lights me on fire...

Well yeah, the initial blow being harmless is the whole point, but after that initial hit...

[Soulwynd]

Yep. I only use the DR while a spy and I survive against nearly everything.

If you want to test, have a friend with a pistol stand at point blank to you, shoot you with it so you can check the damage, it should be around ~20hp, and then turn your DR on and have him shoot non-stop. You take only 2hp damage from the pistol at point blank when the DR is active. You also take 0 to 1 hp of damage from the flamethrower after burn when it's active. And so on.



Again, DR reduces -ALL- damage while active. The after burn means nothing to a DR spy... until the cloak runs out, that is.

[The Doctor]

Also, everyone can see you, so they can just wait.

[Soulwynd]

Also, everyone can see you, so they can just wait.

Only if you're on fire/bleeding or took some metal and bumped into someone.

If you bump into someone without taking metal after activating the DR you're fully invisible.

[The Doctor]

I was talking about being on fire o.o

[Siquo]

What? The DR doesn't give any damage reduction. Only the first blow, the one that "kills" the spy is reduced by it.

Uh, Sorry but you're wrong... DR reduces all incoming damage while active. You're nearly immortal while invisible.

Fun facts from the TF2 wiki:

The Spy will take only 10% damage from attacks while he is cloaked, including the initial triggering attack.

Using the Dead Ringer, It is possible to survive: a deadly fall (non-trigger), 16 stickies, taunt attacks, fully-charged headshots, backstabs, and the initial hit by a train or saw blade.

That explains why I have to burn them for 2 hours before they die... That's a bit... overpowered.

[Nilocy]

What? The DR doesn't give any damage reduction. Only the first blow, the one that "kills" the spy is reduced by it.

Uh, Sorry but you're wrong... DR reduces all incoming damage while active. You're nearly immortal while invisible.

Fun facts from the TF2 wiki:

The Spy will take only 10% damage from attacks while he is cloaked, including the initial triggering attack.

Using the Dead Ringer, It is possible to survive: a deadly fall (non-trigger), 16 stickies, taunt attacks, fully-charged headshots, backstabs, and the initial hit by a train or saw blade.

That explains why I have to burn them for 2 hours before they die... That's a bit... overpowered.

Not really, since if they are on fire, you can follow them until they're forced to uncloak.

[Siquo]

Yeah but surprise surprise they run back towards their heavy friends waiting around the corner. I often lose them this way, making my spychecking less than efficient.

In other news, I've been playing the solly more, and switched back from the direct hit to the regular rocket launcher (took a bit of getting used to), and demo with normal stickies. Mostly because I hate sentryguns. I'm also using the pain train regularly, since I like winning more than getting more kills.