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[Neonivek]

You forget Servant Corps that new resources constantly reach earth all the time.

Though I need to check my Data if Earth is growing (very very slowly) or shrinking (very very slowly) in mass

[Yanlin]

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Where is that mass coming from/going to?

STOP! YOU HAVE VIOLATED THE PHYSICS LAW! PAY THE UNIVERSE A FINE OR SERVE YOUR SENTENCE! YOUR STOLEN THEORIES ARE NOW FORFEIT!



What about the other stuff the Venus project wants to do? Most of them can still be achieved without abolishing money. Only by abolishing profit. Which is easy through powerful taxes. I'm sure voters will raise the taxes on the rich.

[Neonivek]

Where is that mass coming from/going to?

It is going to and from Space

[Yanlin]

Still violating. HOW is it going out there? Also, space doesn't contain much...

[Rezan]

Uhmm. The Earth is just a large bunch of space-dust rounded by gravity. Though it might have been "struck off" from another such object. Anyway, space-dust is constantly weighing down the planet at the rate of some hundreds or thousands of tons per year. Gravity pulls it in.

This does not however mean that the Earth won't run out of resources. Electric energy for instance is an incredible waste for heating and various other things, and it's very hard to make in comparison to other forms of energy.

[Yanlin]

Are you telling me there's hundreds of thousands of tons of space dust coming down on this planet every year?

[citation needed]

[Neonivek]

Are you telling me there's hundreds of thousands of tons of space dust coming down on this planet every year?

No Citation needed.

Matter cannot be created or destroyed (Law of Conservation of matter)

What did you think happened to objects that burn up in our atmosphere? Disapear?

[Yanlin]

Well of course they end up on the earth. What frightens me is the huge number.

[Neonivek]

Well of course they end up on the earth. What frightens me is the huge number.

The number is a lot less if you do some math

So lets assume the exact number of space dust a year is 500,000 tons and lets assume all of it floats to the ground immediately and doesn't mix with air or water.

500,000 pounds a year is further divided 365 (I think) to get the daily total. We will say that is 1400 tons, we will say those are metric tons so 1,400,000 Kilograms of dust. People weigh around 60 Kilograms?

The earth's surface area is 510072000 Kilometers. Turned into meters it is 510,072,000,000. This number is HUGE so lets turn Kilograms into grams 1,400,000,000.

This means that for ever meter of surface area on the entire earth you get 0.003 grams of dust for a yearly accumulation of 1 gram per meter. For an estimate of how much that is, Wipe your finger on a shelf you don't clean (ever). That dust is about a gram.

Meaning that it would take around 100 years to coat the surface of that 1 by 1 meter square assuming perfect conditions.

Not all that much. (Note: I am using Grams incorrectly in a equivocation sort of way)

[Yanlin]

Hmm. Yeah. That makes sense. But further proof would be weight measurements of the earth itself. Over time.

[Rezan]

How the hell would you accomplish that? Magic?

[mainiac]

How the hell would you accomplish that? Magic?

We know the universal gravitational constant.  It's fairly easy to measure the strength of gravity at many points on the surface of the earth.  With enough datapoints and fine enough measurements, we can get a pretty accurate measurement of the mass of the earth at any given time.  All that's left is waiting a few tens of thousands of years for the change to be noticeable.

[Rezan]

That was my point.

[mainiac]

My bad.  Thought you were saying it couldn't be done.

[praguepride]

Lawl! It looks like one big scam or troll, although I didn't read very far.

I stopped when I got to the "21.5 acre research center" and yet there were no actual pictures in the photo gallery, just a bunch of artistic renderings.

edit: Wow, it's not a troll: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacque_Fresco#The_Venus_Project

Still causes me to lol though