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[Sergius]

Hey Toady, how difficult would be to change your program to something like this:

and eventually the menus and other things could be improved separately from the gaming area (turned into toolbars? toolboxes? something out of the Tropico interface maybe with sub-toolbars?).

For anyone else who is going to say "but then it wouldn't be curses or ascii or whatever", I think we're gone past the curses/ascii stage. Or are you going to tell me that I can run DF under text console mode under Windows or Linux?

Anyway, cheers as usual, game is very addictive...

PS: Hey, have you thought about another feature called the BOSS KEY? All you need is an empty screen that looks like a harmless command prompt or something, maybe when you hit alt-tab while paused or something. It would be neat since I play this at the office a lot haha. Of course it could be disabled in the init.

[Fenrir]

quote:Originally posted by Sergius:
<STRONG>...think we're gone past the curses/ascii stage.</STRONG>

You are suddenly faced by a pair of massive jaws. Saliva drips from between the glimmering teeth you can see within them. Terror fills your heart as you look up into the creatures eyes. These are the jaws of Fenrir, the monstrous wolf. The very jaws that consumed Tyr's hand, the very jaws that are fated to kill Odin himself during Ragnarok.
"ASCII", the wolf growls deeply, "will never die!"
The jaws gape open, and in another instant, your blasphemous ways are at an end.

[Torak]

You're suggesting a vanilla-released graphics set and tileset?

[Sergius]

I think you misunderstood. I mean THIS game is past ASCII. It's not ASCII anymore. It's not ASCII compatible. You can't run in ASCII, you can only make it look like ASCII via opengl textures. Just because the screen is (currently) limited to 80 x 25 tiles, and the (graphical) tiles look like ASCII characters, ASCII it is not, my friend. It's not ASCII here or there. It's not ASCII anywhere. It's not ASCII in a box. It's not ASCII with a fox. It's not ASCII in a boat. It's not ASCII with a goat.

[Sergius]

quote:Originally posted by Torak:
<STRONG>You're suggesting a vanilla-released graphics set and tileset?</STRONG>

I'm suggesting whatever rendering method it currently uses (vanilla tileset, graphical textures, etc) at least in the playing area (the left rectangle) but just make the separate parts of the interface... well, separate. Probably having the modal screens be modal dialogs or whatever.

Eventually they would even be modeless and could work in real time with pause off (if Toady wants it so), but for now just focus on being able to separate them in our respective windowed OS(es). Also if at some point Toady wants to make it cross-compilable (say in Linux or Mac, IF that is even possible), using a device independent library like wxWidgets could be a good idea too.

[Torak]

quote:Originally posted by Sergius:
<STRONG>

I'm suggesting whatever rendering method it currently uses (vanilla tileset, graphical textures, etc) at least in the playing area (the left rectangle) but just make the separate parts of the interface... well, separate. Probably having the modal screens be modal dialogs or whatever.</STRONG>

Well they're connected by this little thing called a hardcode, and toady has explicitly stated he will not work on the UI for a long time.

[Fenrir]

quote:Originally posted by Sergius:
<STRONG>I think you misunderstood. I mean THIS game is past ASCII. It's not ASCII anymore. It's not ASCII compatible. You can't run in ASCII, you can only make it look like ASCII via opengl textures. Just because the screen is (currently) limited to 80 x 25 tiles, and the (graphical) tiles look like ASCII characters, ASCII it is not, my friend. It's not ASCII here or there. It's not ASCII anywhere. It's not ASCII in a box. It's not ASCII with a fox. It's not ASCII in a boat. It's not ASCII with a goat.</STRONG>

And it shall always look like ASCII! Beautiful, glorious ASCII!

[WillNZ]

Difficult enough to make programming much slower. He's not upgrading the interface at all until the game is at a more advanced state of completion... or at least that's what I could glean from his interview.

BTW, nice graphic. I hope the game one day looks like that.

[ January 16, 2008: Message edited by: WillNZ ]

[Fenrir]

quote:Originally posted by WillNZ:
<STRONG>BTW, nice graphic. I hope the game one day looks like that.</STRONG>

Armok, smite them! Let loose your ‼carp‼ upon the ASCII haters!

[Sergius]

quote:Originally posted by WillNZ:
<STRONG>BTW, nice graphic. I hope the game one day looks like that.</STRONG>

Well the in game graphic is just an existing character set with a graphic set, with 16x16 pixels per tile, I just added the borders and docklets or whatever (ripped em straight from Photoshop, I did  )

[Draco18s]

As long as the suggestion is the window interface and not taking away my pseudo-ASCII I'd like to see it.

[Capntastic]

I think this would be super tough to do, given the way the game works.    We'll have to wait until the presentation arc to see what sort of groovy ideas Toadius has.

[Armok]

The spinning !!carp!! strikes Sergius in the head!
The spinning !!carp!! strikes WillNZ in the head!

 :mad:

*The demonic kobold stands before you, madness in his eyes*

This. Game. IS. ASCII. It has always BEEN ASCII. And it will ALWAYS be ASCII.
Beautiful ASCII, my preczioussss...

*Highfives Fenrirs paw*

[dyze]

quote:Originally posted by Torak:
<STRONG>

..he will not work on the UI for a long time.</STRONG>

aww, i just hope he doesnt wait until its 'feature finished', that would be one big ugly monster to wrestle.

nice to see my tileset floating around tho, even if it isnt on the wiki  

[Red Jackard]

quote:Fen and Armok's tantruming

Good lord! Will you people cool it with the spam every time these sort of threads pop up? Isn't this injoke becoming a bit ridiculous by now?