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[Fenrir]

quote:Originally posted by Red Jackard:
<STRONG>Good lord! Will you people cool it with the spam every time these sort of threads pop up? Isn't this injoke becoming a bit ridiculous by now?</STRONG>

You think we're joking? We never joke about keeping the ASCII!

[WillNZ]

quote: The spinning !!carp!! strikes Sergius in the head!
The spinning !!carp!! strikes WillNZ in the head!

Don't go around murdering people just yet. It's going to be a long, long while before there is any kind of "official" graphics overhaul. I'm not going to speak for Toady, but I'll tell you this: ASCII is charming but is also horribly obtuse except for the most hardcore of players. And as the game becomes more complex, it will being even more obtuse if it remains ASCII. But, you can rest assured should the unthinkable happen and the game has the opulent trappings of graphics that you could always remodel the graphics back into austere letters and symbols.

[Armok]

The spinning !!carp!! strikes Red Jackard in the head!
The spinning elephant strikes   WillNZ    in the head!

[WillNZ]

quote: Core50, TILESET SUPPORT, (Future): Allow graphical tiles to be used for all game objects.

[Sowelu]

I can't think of a single roguelike where this windowing was done well.  NethackW annoyed me; AngbandW annoyed me but was more tolerable.  Are there better examples of this out there?

I mean, I like it all in concept very much.

As for the ASCII graphics:  Moving to a graphical tileset can really screw with games like Nethack.  I don't use any graphical tilesets for DF yet, but it was pretty clearly made for it...I mean look at the Elephant/Elf problem, and all the many noble types with the same character.

...I think IVAN was good for graphics but I can't remember if its menus were windowed, I think they weren't.

[Tinker]

Derail:
I'm wondering if Fenrir and Armok even read the OP. He wasn't talking about your precious ASCII Characters  (Which still aren't ASCII seeing as how they are rendered in OpenGL) He stated pretty clearly he was more interested in allowing more control over the interface.

Re-rail:
I've been playing since the Z level was introduced and I would love to be able to move the various windows so I could display more information in an easier to read layout. If this became an option I think I would have the play window on the top. The commands and maps would be below that. I'd be able to have all three on screen at the same time while still maximizing play window size. <3

[Earthquake Damage]

If menus were split off into separate windows, it'd be nice if they worked a bit like Winamp (I've used 5.0.8 and earlier so I can't speak for newer versions) where the separate pieces can "snap" together and be moved as one unit but can also be pulled apart and moved separately.

[DJ]

It would also be neat to be able to open multiple windows of same type. So you could have like four small fortress views instead of one large, and each one would show a different z-layer or something. And we might even create one of those small lock-on-dwarf tracking views.

[Sofaspud]

Sergius: that's not nice, man.  I saw the image before reading the text, and was all like "HOLY CRAP, how'd he get it to DO that, I want IwantIwant!"

Tease.  

[Caz]

Keep the ASCII, I just want a bigger viewport and better UI..  

[Torak]

quote:Originally posted by Armok:
<STRONG>The spinning !!carp!! strikes Red Jackard in the head!
The spinning elephant strikes   WillNZ    in the head!</STRONG>

Stop acting like a moron. Seriously, you piss me off to no end with your roleplaying. If you cant handle a goddamn suggestion with maturity, shutup and just dont comment, or *emote* like you always seem to do. Be helpful or fuck off.

[Red Jackard]

quote:Originally posted by Torak:
*quoting an armok post*

<STRONG>Stop acting like a moron. Seriously, you piss me off to no end with your roleplaying. If you cant handle a goddamn suggestion with maturity, shutup and just dont comment, or *emote* like you always seem to do. Be helpful or fuck off.</STRONG>

Definitely. The 'rp' is really quite horrible.

[Fenrir]

quote:Originally posted by Torak:
<STRONG>Stop acting like a moron. Seriously, you piss me off to no end with your roleplaying. If you cant handle a goddamn suggestion with maturity, shutup and just dont comment, or *emote* like you always seem to do. Be helpful or fuck off.</STRONG>

quote:Originally posted by Fenrir:
<STRONG>You are suddenly faced by a pair of massive jaws. Saliva drips from between the glimmering teeth you can see within them. Terror fills your heart as you look up into the creatures eyes. These are the jaws of Fenrir, the monstrous wolf. The very jaws that consumed Tyr's hand, the very jaws that are fated to kill Odin himself during Ragnarok.
"ASCII", the wolf growls deeply, "will never die!"
The jaws gape open, and in another instant, your blasphemous ways are at an end.
</STRONG>

quote:Originally posted by Fenrir:
<STRONG>And it shall always look like ASCII! Beautiful, glorious ASCII!</STRONG>

quote:Originally posted by Fenrir:
<STRONG>Armok, smite them! Let loose your ‼carp‼ upon the ASCII haters!</STRONG>

It was I, Fenrir, the Monstrous Wolf, who is most to blame for the sabotage of this heretical thread, and yet you vent your rage upon Armok?

[Torak]

quote:Originally posted by Fenrir:
<STRONG>

It was I, Fenrir, the Monstrous Wolf, who is most to blame for the sabotage of this heretical thread, and yet you vent your rage upon Armok?</STRONG>

You act like a moron as well, but atleast it's not constant.

[Draco18s]

You know what bugs me more than the pointless role playing?

THE FUCKING JACKASSES WHO MAKE A BIG DEAL ABOUT IT!