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Author Topic: How Stones/Gems/Ore/Metals look like  (Read 31135 times)

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Re: How Stones/Gems/Ore/Metals look like
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2009, 09:16:56 pm »

Some more Bismuth.  I now need to find me some of this for my small stone collection IRL.

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Re: How Stones/Gems/Ore/Metals look like
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2009, 10:03:55 pm »

Dude, check out kyanite:
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Almost looks like a movie prop for some insidious magic crystal plot device.
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Re: How Stones/Gems/Ore/Metals look like
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2009, 11:06:44 pm »

Quartz isn't anywhere as trippy as bismuth, geothite, and, heck, even millerite sometimes. But it has scale in spades.

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Re: How Stones/Gems/Ore/Metals look like
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2009, 11:37:54 pm »

WOW Jualin, I thought those kind of crystal caves were absolute perfect fantasy.

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Re: How Stones/Gems/Ore/Metals look like
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2009, 11:57:46 pm »

Only Geologists and Dwarf Fortress players get this excited about pictures of rocks. Although for Geologists it's professional, whereas for Dwarf Fortress players it's more like porn.
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Re: How Stones/Gems/Ore/Metals look like
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2009, 03:47:36 am »

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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2009, 05:03:18 am »

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Re: How Stones/Gems/Ore/Metals look like
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2009, 08:46:49 am »

Quartz isn't anywhere as trippy as bismuth, geothite, and, heck, even millerite sometimes. But it has scale in spades.

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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2009, 09:10:53 am »

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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2009, 09:43:35 am »

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Re: How Stones/Gems/Ore/Metals look like
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2009, 03:46:45 pm »

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Re: How Stones/Gems/Ore/Metals look like
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2009, 04:05:13 pm »

The bismuth crystal pictures do not at all represent how it normally looks. If you're smelting bismuth, you're going to get something that looks more like a normal (if sort of rocky and brittle) metal. Those weird iridescent crystals are just what it looks like when you let it grow as, well, uniform crystals.
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Re: How Stones/Gems/Ore/Metals look like
« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2009, 04:44:13 pm »

The best (read only) ways of making a nice crystal that I can come up with, having had Chemistry up to an AP level, are gaseous deposition, which I know would work, but I don't know what exactly would need done, and I think electrolysis of a solution of Bi3+ would work.  Here's how you'd do that:
 
 First, obtain some bismuth based solder.  If it helps, look for Rose's Metal.  Wikipedia lists a solder alloy with the formula SnBi58 which I'd suggest using the most if you can somehow find it, alternately, a simple sample of pure bismuth metal ought to work.
 
 Next, put that in a beaker and apply Hydrochloric acid, HCl.  These are rough steps, so how much is relatively up to you.  Be careful though as it is an acid.  This will produce a solution of BiCl3 which just dissolves in H2O to produce the Bi3+ ions and some Cl- ions and also produce some H2 gas.  If you apply a voltage of slightly more than 1V you ought to get Cl2 gas and possibly some H2 gas bubbling off the electrode and Bi crystallizing on the cathode.  You would probably need a gold or platinum set of electrodes.  Stay away from the cell as it operates as the Cl2 gas is very toxic and may react with the H2 gas to produce HCl in a gaseous form.  As the solution in the beaker crystallizes it will also be reacting with the excess acid in the solution, so this will probably take a while for the reaction to procede to completion.
 
 For a safer method, which I just realized would be applicable, a set of Sn electrodes would produce a galvanic cell, thus generating electricity instead of consuming it.  If anyone wants to look up how to set up a galvanic cell, they can do so on their own.  To make this you would need some Sn, tin, electrodes and the BiCl3 you prepared in the other method.

Though this will only get you a Bismuth crystal.  The iridescence comes from the Bi2O3 coating that is effectively rust.  Just let it sit out.  It should eventually tarnish to that.
 
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Re: How Stones/Gems/Ore/Metals look like
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2009, 09:08:04 pm »

Now that doesn't sound hard at all.
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Re: How Stones/Gems/Ore/Metals look like
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2009, 01:16:39 pm »

Incredibly dumbed down:   Get bismuth.  Put in hydrochloric acid.  Add tin foil.  The bismuth will crystallize on the tin foil.
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