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« Reply #240 on: September 12, 2009, 01:44:55 pm »

I'm glad that was an easy fix.
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« Reply #241 on: September 12, 2009, 01:45:30 pm »

C++ is lenient to a fault

Stroustrup's classic formulation: "C makes it easy for you to shoot yourself in the foot.  C++ makes that harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg."

XD  Oh you, that's a funny quote.
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« Reply #242 on: September 12, 2009, 01:51:39 pm »

C++ is lenient to a fault

Stroustrup's classic formulation: "C makes it easy for you to shoot yourself in the foot.  C++ makes that harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg."
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« Reply #243 on: September 12, 2009, 03:22:13 pm »

Just asking because you've been putting out new versions VERY quickly in the last few days: Can we expect a new release anytime soon or would this be a good time to start a new game?

Missed this with my last reply:

I'd say go ahead and start a new game. Classes have started up and I have several things I'm working on now. If the next release comes soon, it won't break save compatibility, because it'll be small stuff. If it does break save compatibility, it'll take awhile.
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« Reply #244 on: September 12, 2009, 06:33:06 pm »

Alright, so I did start up another game just now and came across some weird game behaviour right at the beginning.

After blowing my cover, I was attacked by an unarmed conservative. I didn't want any crimes on my founder yet, so I thought I'd defeat this guy through counterattacks exclusively.

I'm posting here because that didn't work. Characters will only use their martial arts ability to counterattack if they have already previously used it to attack. This is a bug, not a feature, right?

On a somewhat related note, if my safehouse is being attacked by non-governmental forces, my operatives should not get assaults/murders on their rap sheets for their acts of self-defense.
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« Reply #245 on: September 12, 2009, 06:36:03 pm »

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On a somewhat related note, if my safehouse is being attacked by non-governmental forces, my operatives should not get assaults/murders on their rap sheets for their acts of self-defense.
In real life, yes.  On Planet LCS, no.  After all, this is the land where all police are arch conservative scumbags, and everyone in power really is conspiring against Liberals.
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« Reply #246 on: September 12, 2009, 06:51:24 pm »

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On a somewhat related note, if my safehouse is being attacked by non-governmental forces, my operatives should not get assaults/murders on their rap sheets for their acts of self-defense.
In real life, yes.  On Planet LCS, no.  After all, this is the land where all police are arch conservative scumbags, and everyone in power really is conspiring against Liberals.

Oh yes, I know that. I thought the conservative plan of action was a deliberate failure to notice or investigate those assaults, in the hope that one of them will eventually succeed. But actually charging the defending liberals with murder in such a case would amount to an acknowledgment of the incidents. I thought Planet LCS conservatives were all about rules and regulations, in a very 'Lawful Evil' kind of way?
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« Reply #247 on: September 12, 2009, 08:30:48 pm »

I'm posting here because that didn't work. Characters will only use their martial arts ability to counterattack if they have already previously used it to attack. This is a bug, not a feature, right?

Yes, though I'm baffled as to why that would be. Did you test enough to be sure you weren't just unlucky? If they only fail their attack roll by a little, you won't get to counter.
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« Reply #248 on: September 12, 2009, 08:35:34 pm »

On a somewhat related note, if my safehouse is being attacked by non-governmental forces, my operatives should not get assaults/murders on their rap sheets for their acts of self-defense.

While it might be obvious for YOU, it may not be that obvious to the Conservative Police Force who arrive just a little too late to see what happens. Keep in might that Hicks, Corporate Mercs, and other non-government organizations would operate some sort of Guardian in which they claim that they were the ones fighting in self-defense too, and would likely present their case on a AM Radio talk show. The police could get tired of the partisan bickering and decide to just slap murder charges on both factions, letting the Jury handle it. "Execute them all, it's the only way to be sure."

Your sleeper lawyer would tell the jury that you were fighting in self-defense, and thus get acquitted.
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« Reply #249 on: September 12, 2009, 08:45:02 pm »

The attacks are pretty below the radar, actually. Raids on the LCS other than police ones don't make the news, except when you surrender and police find a bunch of bodies.
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« Reply #250 on: September 12, 2009, 11:07:08 pm »

Oh.

Then I second the "self-defense" thing. I do like to know how many crimes my guys have committed though, even if those crimes won't be counted on the RAP sheet.
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« Reply #251 on: September 12, 2009, 11:48:55 pm »

I'm posting here because that didn't work. Characters will only use their martial arts ability to counterattack if they have already previously used it to attack. This is a bug, not a feature, right?

Yes, though I'm baffled as to why that would be. Did you test enough to be sure you weren't just unlucky? If they only fail their attack roll by a little, you won't get to counter.

Just to be completely sure, I tried it again with several different enemies in several different situations. It's definitely not a coincidence or fluke, pressing 'wait' instead of attacking will deactivate counterattacks for that turn. I hope that helps.
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« Reply #252 on: September 13, 2009, 02:50:49 am »

I got an opinion poll message "The people are most concerned about the CCS terrorists" in classic mode. This is a bug right? Or does classic mode mean that they're still there but act very covertly? :)

EDIT: Another bug that REALLY affects gameplay is that your members may get wanted for murder for situations where the murderer was an ex-conservative converted by guitars and not a squad member. Happened to me with by security guards shooting at each other while my hippies were playing guitar at them. The conservative one died, and my people got wanted.

FURTHER EDIT: Also had the sole defender of my homeless shelter clone to fill all slots during a corporate mercenary raid. When one of them was hit, everyone took damage (voodoo clones?) and the siege wasn't resolved upon their defeat.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2009, 07:48:59 am by Kay12 »
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« Reply #253 on: September 13, 2009, 10:57:39 am »

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« Reply #254 on: September 13, 2009, 12:09:33 pm »

Makes sense ^^.
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