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Author Topic: [Poi~] Poi is once again permitted (Happy thread)  (Read 8002649 times)

Bauglir

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See above post for clarification in edit-form. Also, the good news is you CAN turn it off in models that support it. Although, sometimes, it just tells you it's turned off. And it's lying.

EDIT: Also, if I had to describe the best part, it's that the offline version of the attack (the one that hasn't been neatly sidestepped by just having the router stop responding if you fuck up enough times) exploits some failures in pseudorandom number generation. In one manufacturer's case, it's really easy to determine the state of the PRNG, and it's completely deterministic. In another manufacturer's case, instead of a PNRG, they just used the number zero.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2015, 11:06:55 pm by Bauglir »
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

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I'm scared now.
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Please don't shitpost, it lowers the quality of discourse
Hard science is like a sword, and soft science is like fear. You can use both to equally powerful results, but even if your opponent disbelieve your stabs, they will still die.

Bauglir

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Okay, well, to make you feel actually better, most routers aren't actually vulnerable because they've implemented the "shut the fuck up" protocol if somebody tries guessing a bunch of PINs. As for the offline attack I'm so gleeful about, it's a bitch to get working and only works on routers built with chipsets from the two particular manufacturers I mentioned just now.
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

Orange Wizard

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Oh.

Alright.

* Orange Wizard turns off the wireless on his router and lays a cable down the hall instead.
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Please don't shitpost, it lowers the quality of discourse
Hard science is like a sword, and soft science is like fear. You can use both to equally powerful results, but even if your opponent disbelieve your stabs, they will still die.

Bauglir

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I use the ceiling! Less risk of people tripping that way.
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

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I'll be surprised if this hasn't been shared already, but I just discovered it and it made me happy.

The Dwarves of Demrel

I'm loving the atmosphere from this little teaser.
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In the land of twilight, under the moon
We dance for the idiots
As the end will come so soon
In the land of twilight

Maybe people should love for the sake of loving, and not with all of these optimization conditions.

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they wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the raving confessions of a mass murdering cannibal from a recipe to bake a pie.
Knowing Belgium, everyone will vote for themselves out of mistrust for anyone else, and some kind of weird direct democracy coalition will need to be formed from 11 million or so individuals.

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Happy cakeday
wh... what the hell were they doing to their keyboard
where did they get a sentient one
it just raises so many questions
Sentience doesn't imply consent you boor!
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Sentience, Endurance, and Thumbs: The Trifector of a Superpredator.
Yeah, he's a banned spammer. Normally we'd delete this thread too, but people were having too much fun with it by the time we got here.
Bay 12 Blood Bowl I apparently host now.

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Happy Birthday.

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We are doomed. It's just that whatever is going to kill us all just happens to be, from a scientific standpoint, pretty frickin' awesome.

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I almost certainly messed that up. The idea stands.
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Wszystkiego najlepszego z okazji urodzin!
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Recently started playing Cardfight Vanguard, it's pretty fun. Shame about the power creep.

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Miauw no longer is the youngest member of the forum, congratz !

Wait, it doesn't work like that, does it ?
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Maybe if I went insane and made an account for Kim
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