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Author Topic: [🧼👏] Wash your hands, not your pons (Happy thread)  (Read 8500826 times)

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Re: [bunbunbun] UPRPR club hop and flop station (Happy thread)
« Reply #171420 on: May 06, 2016, 07:43:28 pm »

Fat isn't turned into fat :/
If you ate too much protein and/or fat, you would not get fatter but just be sick from it in other ways.
The only things turned into fat are sugars. Carbs have sugars. Thus carbs make you fat.
No, that doesn't mean carbs are bad. Sugars are also energy, so you need them. Remember, fat is stored energy. Fiber helps with the management of sugars turned into fat and sugars used as well.

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The fat you eat is broken down into fatty acids, which is either used by your body or stored as body fat. The proteins and carbohydrates are likewise digested and used or else stored as body fat. Overeat = you get fatter

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Re: [bunbunbun] UPRPR club hop and flop station (Happy thread)
« Reply #171421 on: May 06, 2016, 07:45:22 pm »

I dunno :P
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Re: [bunbunbun] UPRPR club hop and flop station (Happy thread)
« Reply #171422 on: May 06, 2016, 07:47:43 pm »

Another one, though I don't know this Doc at all had the same issue but with a guy who just ate loads and loads of satsumas. His line of thinking was that eating satsumas is good for you, so eating more = more good
Satsumas?  *checks* eww oranges.  Lemons and limes instead pls.

And how silly, that only works with celery and tofu.
and castor oil
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Re: [bunbunbun] UPRPR club hop and flop station (Happy thread)
« Reply #171423 on: May 06, 2016, 07:48:50 pm »

@Rolan:Go you!
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Re: [bunbunbun] UPRPR club hop and flop station (Happy thread)
« Reply #171424 on: May 06, 2016, 08:26:34 pm »

Satsumas are fab though :D

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Re: [bunbunbun] UPRPR club hop and flop station (Happy thread)
« Reply #171425 on: May 06, 2016, 08:33:13 pm »

Wait, what you said about fats and stuffs before doesn't makes sense. The energy from the sugars is going to be used before the fats will, so even if you eat just enough sugars to give you just enough energy, your fat will never be used.

Also, not what we were taught in school :P
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Re: [bunbunbun] UPRPR club hop and flop station (Happy thread)
« Reply #171426 on: May 06, 2016, 08:35:53 pm »

It's almost as though nutrition is a complicated science.

Overeat = you get fatter
This is essentially accurate in 99% of cases. Unless you're going out of your way to only eat food with incredibly low calories (which is unhealthy anyway) you're going to get fatter from overeating.
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Re: [bunbunbun] UPRPR club hop and flop station (Happy thread)
« Reply #171427 on: May 06, 2016, 09:33:45 pm »

Wait, what you said about fats and stuffs before doesn't makes sense. The energy from the sugars is going to be used before the fats will, so even if you eat just enough sugars to give you just enough energy, your fat will never be used.
Let's say you eat three croissants. You'd get a load of carbohydrates and some fats, of which the carbohydrates would be broken down into glucose and the fats into fatty acids. Most all this gets absorbed in the small intestine, entering the circulatory system where some of this glucose is used by the cells of your body to release energy via aerobic respiration, pretty much allowing your body to get shit done. At this point as well the fatty acids are used by the cells of your body like in insulating your neurons or in the construction of cell membranes, with the excess being stored as as triglyceride molecules - making up body fat. Simultaneously, you've just had lots of glucose enter your bloodstream and you can't use it all. This high glucose concentration is detected in the pancreas and insulin begins to be secreted by beta cells in the pancreas, stimulating the storage of this excess glucose as glycogen in the liver. If you eat even more croissants beyond your liver's ability to store this glucose as glycogen, it's just stored as fat.
After some time has passed and you haven't eaten anything, your blood glucose concentration begins to drop lower. Your pancreas detects this again and begins secreting glucagon, initiating the breakdown of glycogen into glucose in the liver for use once more throughout the body. When carbohydrates are scarce enough yet energy demands are not met by fatty acids from food (hence why hikers often carry the phatty bar to save their skin), the body begins breaking down its bodily fat reserves to release energy. If you endured under a croissant famine, your body would eventually even run out of its remaining fat reserves and glucose, at which point it would begin producing glucose for aerobic respiration by breaking down proteins in your muscle cells. If that goes on eventually your vital organs atrophy too much and you die. Diet is a balance after all :D
Moving on you could have a constant supply of sugar and never begin to touch your fat reserves for energy but you'd sooner get diabetes. This is where diet is especially important (well, for most people it's not - it's mostly relevant for athletes and soldiers for whom reliable performance is paramount. For everyone else it's ""just"" vitally important for regular health). High carbohydrate diet = Go longer without touching fat reserves, slower regular release of energy regulated by the Pancreas; High protein diet = Shorter higher burst of energy, slower thereafter eating into those fat reserves. Best to have balanced obv.
In regards to your post, if you overeat and your blood glucose, liver stores and fatty acids are never scarce your body's fat stores will go mostly untouched and you'll get a net gain in body fat from anything that gets stored. So you're kinda right

Also, not what we were taught in school :P
When it comes to education results may vary and curriculums are subject to dickery, political and lobbied. Sometimes it's just a case of simplification to make it easier to grasp/get pass grades/dumb down students
Like how in the UK our kids weren't taught how to code, with our IT instead teaching how to use Microsoft products. 10 secs guess as to who lobbied for this

Overeat = you get fatter
This is essentially accurate in 99% of cases. Unless you're going out of your way to only eat food with incredibly low calories (which is unhealthy anyway) you're going to get fatter from overeating.
100% of cases, if you overeat and gain more than you can burn, for as long as thermodynamics don't break that energy doesn't disappear

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Oh yeah and fibre doesn't manage sugars. Soluble fibre may reduce cholesterol and makes poo softer, stopping constipation. Insoluble fibre acts as roughage, helping keep food moving through the gut. It also helps people avoid feeling hungry, useful if you're losing weight/are a fan of oats/in croissant famine
« Last Edit: May 06, 2016, 09:47:45 pm by Loud Whispers »
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Re: [bunbunbun] UPRPR club hop and flop station (Happy thread)
« Reply #171428 on: May 06, 2016, 09:34:52 pm »

It's almost as though nutrition is a complicated science.

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Re: [bunbunbun] UPRPR club hop and flop station (Happy thread)
« Reply #171429 on: May 06, 2016, 09:40:50 pm »

Unrelated to nutritional science, another happy from me today!

I had a pretty good day, hung out with my friends, saw the new cap'n amuricah movie, all in all, pretty damn good.

Also, looking at hairstyles for when I'm transitioning X33.

The end of this year couldn't come quickly enough, really.
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Re: [bunbunbun] UPRPR club hop and flop station (Happy thread)
« Reply #171430 on: May 06, 2016, 09:59:19 pm »

Just got back from Civil War a couple hours ago.  Need some time to digest it yet, but it may be my new favorite Marvel film.
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Re: [bunbunbun] UPRPR club hop and flop station (Happy thread)
« Reply #171431 on: May 06, 2016, 10:32:23 pm »

In my continuing adventure of biking and fitness, I got an MP3 player, loaded up with some of my favorite songs, and biked 15 miles today, in what felt much easier than the 14 I did six days ago. Didn't think it'd make that much of a difference really, but it's easier when the ride isn't just silence and me contemplating my navel.
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Re: [bunbunbun] UPRPR club hop and flop station (Happy thread)
« Reply #171432 on: May 06, 2016, 10:36:00 pm »

Just got back from Civil War a couple hours ago.  Need some time to digest it yet, but it may be my new favorite Marvel film.

That's good, I guess. Especially because I'm watching it tomorrow.
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Re: [bunbunbun] UPRPR club hop and flop station (Happy thread)
« Reply #171433 on: May 06, 2016, 11:20:23 pm »

In my continuing adventure of biking and fitness, I got an MP3 player, loaded up with some of my favorite songs, and biked 15 miles today, in what felt much easier than the 14 I did six days ago. Didn't think it'd make that much of a difference really, but it's easier when the ride isn't just silence and me contemplating my navel.

Good on ya, man! Fifteen miles is a pretty decent ride for anyone.

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Re: [bunbunbun] UPRPR club hop and flop station (Happy thread)
« Reply #171434 on: May 06, 2016, 11:44:11 pm »

The theatre group me and my friends created a few months ago is just about ready to announce the next season. We had no idea that we'd actually do more than one show, and now we're looking into admission and stuff so we don't have to spend all our own money every 6 months.

It's so cool to start something that is legitimately improving your community.
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