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abculatter_2

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Using HFS as a chasm?
« on: September 26, 2009, 02:57:11 pm »

Would it be possible to dump magma down the HFS and have it disappear like in a chasm? I know HFS are immune to magma, I just need a chasm for a planned magma-fall.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2009, 03:01:27 pm by abculatter_2 »
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Re: Using HFS as a chasm?
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2009, 03:02:37 pm »

Yeah, it's a bottomless pit.
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Re: Using HFS as a chasm?
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2009, 03:08:04 pm »

Yeah, it's a bottomless pit.

A 1-tile bottomless pit. Not of much use, IMO.
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Re: Using HFS as a chasm?
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2009, 03:09:26 pm »

Mine are usually around 5 tiles.

I use them as garbage pits.  I like the thought of dwarven refuse hitting the denizens on the head.
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Re: Using HFS as a chasm?
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2009, 06:46:03 pm »

On a related note, is it possible through exploits or other means to drain magma/lava off the map without a bottomless pit or chasm? Is it possible to use the end of a river for this purpose?
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Re: Using HFS as a chasm?
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2009, 07:24:40 pm »

I think that map edges work as walls for drainage purposes.
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Re: Using HFS as a chasm?
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2009, 07:29:15 pm »

It seems very dwarven to use the hell itself as a garbage disposal. I can just see this isolated pile of goblin clothing, rotten food, and chunks of animals sitting there in a featureless plain, slowly cooking in the heat as demons pick at it.
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Re: Using HFS as a chasm?
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2009, 08:21:30 pm »

Reminds me of the Simpsons Halloween episode with the haunted house. A portal to another dimension is in the wall, they throw an orange through it, and a note is thrown back at them saying "Stop throwing your trash into our dimension.".

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Re: Using HFS as a chasm?
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2009, 08:59:46 pm »

I actually thought of the very same episodes as I typed it :P
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Re: Using HFS as a chasm?
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2009, 09:06:41 pm »

On a related note, is it possible through exploits or other means to drain magma/lava off the map without a bottomless pit or chasm? Is it possible to use the end of a river for this purpose?
No, only water drains from the map edges.
There was an exploit using natural ice floors crashing on the bottom of the world, thus replacing the bottom of the world with an ice floor. Then you could melt the ice and there you go, Bottomless Pit! But as far as I know it doesn't work anymore.
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Re: Using HFS as a chasm?
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2009, 09:24:15 pm »

On a related note, is it possible through exploits or other means to drain magma/lava off the map without a bottomless pit or chasm? Is it possible to use the end of a river for this purpose?
There are two ways I know of. They are both modules for the utility tweak. The first one called Tile Edit is built in but you can only change one tile at a time. The other module is called For Each Tile where once downloaded you can designate an area for low traffic and get it to change the whole lot to chasm tiles in one go.

If you use For Each Tile then you'll want to create a new operation set and set the condition to:
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is_designated_as_low_trafficand the operations set to:
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designate_as_normal_traffic;
make_chasm
Then set a load of tiles at the bottom of the map to low traffic and run the Operation Set and those tiles will be chasm ones.

Unfortunately I don't know if this works for the new 40d#.
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Re: Using HFS as a chasm?
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2009, 09:26:07 pm »

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No, only water drains from the map edges.

I've done it with magma.  Worked fine.  It was through carved fortifications underground and not on the surface, though.
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Re: Using HFS as a chasm?
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2009, 09:32:47 pm »

On a related note, is it possible through exploits or other means to drain magma/lava off the map without a bottomless pit or chasm? Is it possible to use the end of a river for this purpose?

Smooth and carve fortifications on a tile at the very edge of the map (the ones you can't normally dig out).
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Re: Using HFS as a chasm?
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2009, 10:19:01 pm »

On a related note, is it possible through exploits or other means to drain magma/lava off the map without a bottomless pit or chasm? Is it possible to use the end of a river for this purpose?

Smooth and carve fortifications on a tile at the very edge of the map (the ones you can't normally dig out).

Just note that doing this occasionally results in an endless quantity of water pouring into the map. Proceed with caution.

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Re: Using HFS as a chasm?
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2009, 11:33:41 pm »

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No, only water drains from the map edges.

I've done it with magma.  Worked fine.  It was through carved fortifications underground and not on the surface, though.

The last time I did that I was stuck in my fortress for 3 months because of magma flooding the entrance.
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