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[Sensei]

So, whadda ya think?

It's by Bioware, who I love (especially for NWN). And published by EA, who I hope doesn't buttfuck it.

Uses a new system similar to DnD, but tweaked for game purposes and so that they don't have any intellectual property gray areas where user created content is involved.

Should include an extensive and intuitive game editor, like always.

November 3rd. Here's to hoping.

[A_Fey_Dwarf]

I'm looking forward to it as well, though you could have used the search function and just revived my old topic rather than posting a new one.

Hmm, on second thoughts after reading back over that thread, maybe it is best you made the new one. I am glad that Bioware is moving away from Forgotten Realms and DnD, even if they were forced to. I considered pre-ordering it, but i think instead i will wait to see if it is good or if it flops. Bioware have too much on their hands right now and I don't know if they have spent enough time with this release for it to be an indepth, immersive and enjoyable RPG.

[Kagus]

To be perfectly honest, I'm expecting a generic, dull PRG-slasher in the style of every other frippin' fantasy RPG out there.

I do hope that BioWare can prove me wrong...  I used to have a great deal of respect for them, oh so long ago.

[Ioric Kittencuddler]

Uses a new system similar to DnD, but tweaked for game purposes and so that they don't have any intellectual property gray areas where user created content is involved.

Doesn't that describe Bioware games in general?  Admittedly I've never played Jade Empire and Mass Effect so I don't know how D&D like they are but Baldur's Gate, Baldur's Gate 2, Neverwinter Nights, Kotor, and all their expansions all used a modified Dungeons and Dragons system(Well technically KotOR used a modified Star Wars d20 RPG system but that was itself a modified D&D system) tweaked for the game's purposes.

[Vester]

Jade Empire was... not... like DnD. It had a way more simplified stat system, for one thing, no skill checks, and so on.

[Davion]

Grab a whore and have a good time

Looks absolutely horrible, but RPG lovers will eat up that shit sandwich anyway and love it only because Bioware, Obsidian and a handful of others are about the only ones left that give a damn about CRPG's anymore. So I guess you take what you can get.

[Lord Dullard]

Heh. Looks like another KOTOR-clone from Bioware. Don't get me wrong, KOTOR I and II were great games, and I even liked Mass Effect... to a degree... but it's kind of annoying how game companies just keep churning out clones of the one game that got popular 10 years ago. Originality is obviously not highly valued in the corporate gaming world.

I'll be playing Risen, myself... I'll take a Gothic clone over a KOTOR clone any day. 

(If only for the fact that the moral choices in Jowood games tend to be somewhat more ambiguous. Seriously, did Bioware actually hire someone to write the lines of the Raging Elven-Floozy-Raping Douchebag in that movie, or did they just steal them from some poor thirteen year old nerd?)

[Servant Corps]

I've been thinking of applying to Bioware myself as a writer, altough the cliched writing really put me off. Hopefully, I'm cliched enought o get in.

Davion: Fable 1 had whores. As well as possibly other games before that. But how will these whores related to the gameplay?

EDIT: You know what I hate. Dragon Age has very little dragons. Without dragons, it's not a Dragon Age. Arrgh!

[lumin]

I was really excited about this game when it was first announced.  It was touted as the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate and developed by Bioware - what could go wrong!?.  My opinion changed when they started promoting the game as a violent, sex-fest.

With the gore, porn and heavy metal-themed trailers, it's obvious that EA got their grubby little hands all over this project.  I'm not saying I have a problem with gore or sex in a game, as long as it's done with some class.  What I see here and have a problem with is, "Come play Dragon Age because you can splay someone's innards all over the wall and screw hot chicks".

This is starting to look like a trend here, first with Spore and now with Dragon Age.  Things start out so beautiful and interesting, then the publisher gets $$ symbols in their eyes and lowers their creativity standards to the gaming "base".

I hope I'm dead wrong here and the game turns out to be awesome, but everything I've seen from the promos, previews and trailers tells me it will be nothing like Baldur's Gate at all.  If nothing else, EA as the publisher should raise huge red flags on expectations here.  No game genre seems to be safe anymore.  You can have your bloody shooters, sports games, and survival horrors, but please EA, let me have my RPGs.

[qwertyuiopas]

How much procedural generaton does it have?


Unless it has a vast world greater in size than DF's, randomly generated for each save, with intricate random plots that seem human made, and more detailed terrain, WITH today's top standards in graphics, I will probably not buy it.
Though that is only because I almost never buy games anymore, and that is what it would take to get me to buy one.

[Eagleon]

I was not excited about this. Not excited now. Mind you I was still playing BG2 and mods for NWN when it was announced. I remember the setting just looked so generic and mashed-together. I like the origins idea but I doubt it'll affect much beyond the segment at the beginning of the game. Looking at the site now... eh. The impaled head sinking down a sword and spurting blood as a loading bar was pretty tasteless. I know it's all supposed to be dark fantasy and such but that was just kinda cheesy. And the monsters still seem pretty generic.

I have a bit of hope for the story and writing at least. I did enjoy Mass Effect's story and setting, and NWN/BG was fun even though it was generic. I'll wait and see, probably get it when it's $20, or much less.

[Davion]

Davion: Fable 1 had whores. As well as possibly other games before that. But how will these whores related to the gameplay?

I am not so much concerned with the whores and how they are related to gameplay as I am with the shit pile that is the writing in that awkward and embarrassing cinematic.

[CJ1145]

Damn it, I thought this forum was not supposed to have all these corporate-bashing fucktards that decide not to buy a game a month before it's even out because EA made it. Also... do any of you even remember that the metal-trailer was fan-made?? I doubt it, considering that you guys aren't even paying attention to the game, and instead to EA looming in the background.

For the last damn time, EA learned their lesson with Spore. They will never interfere with a game's production again... they'll just add DRM that makes your computer come alive and attack you if it ever notices the words "pirate" or "torrent" on your screen. This includes the agreement you sign at the beginning of installation that asks if you are a pirate or use torrents.

[Ioric Kittencuddler]

Damn it, I thought this forum was not supposed to have all these corporate-bashing fucktards that decide not to buy a game a month before it's even out because EA made it. Also... do any of you even remember that the metal-trailer was fan-made?? I doubt it, considering that you guys aren't even paying attention to the game, and instead to EA looming in the background.

For the last damn time, EA learned their lesson with Spore. They will never interfere with a game's production again... they'll just add DRM that makes your computer come alive and attack you if it ever notices the words "pirate" or "torrent" on your screen. This includes the agreement you sign at the beginning of installation that asks if you are a pirate or use torrents.

I thought this site wasn't supposed to have all these corporate worshiping fan boys who decide a game is good a month before it's even out because EA made it.  Look, I can be pointlessly insulting too!

[Pnx]

How do you get EA to release a good game? Make them think the game will do badly, they'll spend more time developing it.

How do you get EA to release a bad game? Make them think the game has a lot of market potential, they'll push the release and cut corners so they can cash in on the eager fan boys that rush to the store to get it.