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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116655 on: October 10, 2019, 01:21:17 pm »

Same. Just because I don't smile constantly doesn't mean I'm in a bad mood. In fact, I've read somewhere that frowning uses more facial muscles than smiling, so yeah, my facial muscles won't degrade anytime soon.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116656 on: October 10, 2019, 01:39:14 pm »

I actually think holding a smile is more tiring than holding a neutral expression. I tend not to frown a lot, but do keep my face neutral a lot, which may appear like a frown to some people.

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116657 on: October 10, 2019, 02:40:25 pm »

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116658 on: October 11, 2019, 01:11:00 pm »

For some reason I stayed up ridiculously late for no good reason and now I'm in bed but too hungry to sleep. It's 5am, at this point I might as well just give up on sleep.

I'd rather not be crashing about in the kitchen noisily making food at this hour, though. Damnit, why did I eat all my junk food already?! I guess I could always have a bowl of cereal...
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116659 on: October 11, 2019, 01:22:04 pm »

LPT: You should create a loud distraction to benefit from the chaos for some sneaky cooking.

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116660 on: October 11, 2019, 07:18:37 pm »

I'm sad because a fan-made video clip for one of my all time favorite songs isn't on youtube anymore.... idk if I've listened to it these past 40 days.... but relatively speaking mere moments before I got to archivize it


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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116662 on: October 12, 2019, 08:52:48 am »

Some plastic bloke made a nice romantic fire at the beach, and gets subsequently clubbed relentlessly by a mean plastic she-cop--With further brutality AFTER she handcuffs him.
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« Reply #116663 on: October 12, 2019, 10:40:36 am »

Look more closely, that's the cop collapsed at the end. The crim managed to disarm the cop and get the upper hand.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116664 on: October 14, 2019, 04:27:15 am »

I think I'm figuring out the problem: wherever I've ended up in a medium-to-large department (in my country or elsewhere) it has turned out that the people there are already lined up for the nice things, and they aren't really willing to share. I'm expected to play the role of a workhorse, period, with nothing that I'd regard as special for me to do.  Only... I'm single and have no real expenses or reason to stay in one place, and there are not that many people around able to do even the normal "workhorse" stuff that I do, so there is no paucity of work as long as I'm willing to move.

The way I see things these guys will probably fall short of their promises just like the previous ones did (probably in a more  polite way though), and while I'm not bad off right now, I'm not specially happy either. Odds are that sometime next year I'll go elsewhere (it may happen sooner if they do something that annoys me, later if they throw a bone my way). 

I think the funny thing is that I tend to be very frank about what I do and what I expect, but apparently people  think I'm full of shit and that I'll basically settle for  whatever they decide to give me in the end (I have my own theories as to why, which spin around how  they usually treat people and how it works out).  As it turns out they're wrong. I'm single, I have no significant expenses, and I can afford both to move around and to stay unemployed if nothing convinces me.

Right now I'm not uncomfortable, because I have good work hours, good weather and tbh my current activity is rather simplistic compared to what I'm used to. But I'm not doing what I came to do and I'm pretty f*ing far away from home  As soon as something more interesting pops up back home, or the HSE hiring freeze ends, or they simply annoy me beyond my tolerance threshold, I'm hitting the road
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116665 on: October 14, 2019, 09:13:13 am »

Why would your employers invest in you, giving you the position/wage that you want when you might just leave in a heartbeat?

This might be a bit too much of a simplistic view on your work situation, especially since I don't know how things work in your field, but it seems like you're creating a catch-22 situation for yourself. I know just a handful of people that have had to do any sort of HR management but they all agreed on viewing disfavorably those that had changed jobs too many times in a short period.

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116666 on: October 14, 2019, 10:42:32 am »

I dont work in a standard job. This means that

-HR is largely uninvolved in what I get and dont get to do. Depending on the country, their role has been either limited or nonexistent. In many places they don't even have a say on whether I'm hired or not, it works through a public list

- my contention has largely been with the department directors, who apparently assume that once I'm in they can change the terms of the deal at will

- wages are standard and vary mostly with the place I'm working at (and experience). Its largely non negotiable and its also not the reason why I move

- the position is also fairly standard. The details may vary from place to place.

- there are not that many people that do what I do. This means that although the job is fairly niche, as long as I'm willing to travel I'm unlikely to stay unemployed unless I want to.

To boot, the points of contention are unfulfilled employer promises, which concern job stability (real stability, not just chained contracts that end whenever it suits the employer), and nature of the job in question.  In  my previous job I got promises about both that werent fulfilled (and I got a rude reply as justification)

In the current one it seems very much that  the same thing is happening. The job is not as stable as I was told (though as far as chained contracts go it's fairly long) and I'm not doing what was promised. Mind you, I haven't effing married them at any event, but I feel specially not bound if I'm sticking around doing the stuff I'm currently doing with the promise that *maybe* I'll get to do what they told me I would be doing sometime in the next five years.  You have to put a limit on how long you're willing to wait.  My current criteria is to give it a year. Depending on how the situation goes I might make it longer or shorter  (eg: one of my coworkers is apparently being pressured into doing unpaid overtime. I can assure you I'd not react well to such a request)

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Why would your employers invest in you, giving you the position/wage that you want when you might just leave in a heartbeat?
Because I'm very difficult to replace and not giving me what I want might make it more likely for me to leave for greener pastures?
« Last Edit: October 14, 2019, 10:44:45 am by ChairmanPoo »
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116667 on: October 14, 2019, 11:49:29 am »

Disclaimer: I'm not trying to offend you or change your mind. It's quite a slow day at work and me being somewhat young and with limited working experience (I've been at the same job for some years now because it's quite good for  what it requires of me compared to what else is available) I'm interested in how other people deal with employment issues. If you don't feel like continuing the conversation we can drop it.

I agree with you about the whole unpaid labor, broken promises and changing the deal. Coupled with how you described your situation, you are in the perfect spot to keep looking for your ideal job so more power to you.

With that being said I'm not sure about the strength of the "I'm difficult to replace" argument, we live in a global market and whether we like it or not everyone is replaceable eventually. Granted you can't be sure that there is no foul play on the part of your manager/employer, that might have never intended to keep their promises but in the end if it's cheaper/less difficult to replace you than satisfying your demands the outcome will probably always be to keep you for the absolute minimum.

I think it might be more prudent to cultivate your relations with your managers. Afterall, it's the very problem that you describe in your previous post, you have to compete with others that are already established.

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116668 on: October 14, 2019, 12:14:26 pm »

For context, the good Chairman is a medical specialist - bones and possibly bone cancer, IIRC. Specialists with a lot of experience are still difficult to replace, even in the modern era.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116669 on: October 14, 2019, 12:17:43 pm »

Blood and blood cancer, but yes.   :P
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