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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #42930 on: February 06, 2012, 12:02:37 pm »

It almost scares me a little how similar the interactions between Vector and her family are as compared to my significant other and her family, especially her mother.

AA kicked me out because I'm a very vocal atheist

Whaaaaaaat.  What the hell does one have to do with the other?  O_o
AA is a religious organization.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #42931 on: February 06, 2012, 12:13:18 pm »

AA's 12 steps:   

We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable.
    Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
  Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
    Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
    Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
    Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
    Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
    Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
    Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
    Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
    Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the        power to carry that out.
    Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.


The ones in bold don't work so well for me.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #42932 on: February 06, 2012, 12:15:39 pm »

It almost scares me a little how similar the interactions between Vector and her family are as compared to my significant other and her family, especially her mother.

AA kicked me out because I'm a very vocal atheist

Whaaaaaaat.  What the hell does one have to do with the other?  O_o
AA is a religious organization.

Huh.  I learned something new today.

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #42933 on: February 06, 2012, 02:18:01 pm »

It would seem that the recovery of alcoholism is for religious people only?
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #42934 on: February 06, 2012, 02:27:03 pm »

AA was founded as a proselytizing institution. Helping people recover from alcoholism was a secondary goal. I think they even said this outright. They just saw addicts as a potential recruiting ground
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #42935 on: February 06, 2012, 02:36:19 pm »

AA was founded by Christians, and the principles were developed by them. These principles have been adapted by several other faiths for their own needs, and as far as I know, there are also atheistic organizations that have also adapted their own variation of the rules. So yes, AA itself is Christian. However, it is only the most popular of the organizations offering this community service, and has become the genericized term.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #42936 on: February 06, 2012, 02:45:52 pm »

my brother had the same problem, and was outraged that AA was for religious peoples only.
eventually he decided he didn't want to be an alcoholic and just stopped.
thats the way to do it if you ask me... just stop. BAM plain and simple.
but I guess most people don't have good self control.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #42937 on: February 06, 2012, 03:01:29 pm »

Also, alcohol withdrawal can kill you if you've been consuming enough regularly. Also, even barring that, the pain, cravings, and other symptoms can vary strongly from person to person for a lot of reasons, including the aforementioned typical volume of alcohol. So maybe your brother just had an easy withdrawal. I don't think ascribing reasons like that is really a valid way of approaching it, though.
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« Reply #42938 on: February 06, 2012, 03:05:27 pm »

Had a nightmare that involved being blamed for murders committed by a guy that kept breaking into my house to do them (or he was just dumping the bodies in my house, I'm not really sure, it's kinda blurry).
Woke up to the sound of the doorbell ringing, had to sign for a package.

I also haven't eaten anything all day. I know I should eat something, but I just really don't feel like eating.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #42939 on: February 06, 2012, 03:51:33 pm »

thats the way to do it if you ask me... just stop. BAM plain and simple.
but I guess most people don't have good self control.
Good? Try exceptional. Addiction isn't something you just casually walk away from. Support groups and stuff don't exist because people are "weak," but because addictions are damn strong.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #42940 on: February 06, 2012, 05:45:07 pm »

BRB, fucking complex analysis.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #42941 on: February 06, 2012, 06:38:20 pm »

BRB, fucking complex analysis.
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Elaborate.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #42942 on: February 06, 2012, 07:31:45 pm »

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« Reply #42943 on: February 06, 2012, 07:40:45 pm »

BRB, fucking complex analysis.
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Elaborate.
Why yes, it is.
I'm glad you approve of my analysis, now I just await a response to my directive.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #42944 on: February 06, 2012, 08:49:00 pm »

Textbook meets Trashy Romance Novel?
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