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Author Topic: Things that made you sad today thread.  (Read 4709679 times)

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #69780 on: February 18, 2014, 06:04:22 pm »

No... not in the slightest. I guess child porn isn't the first thing that comes to mind for most people. Never even heard anyone make a reference to the two together. So congrats, I guess. You successfully think of child porn when a type of karate is mentioned.
... I don't think I've ever actually seen shotacon used in reference to child porn before, actually. Gag trope, art style (of a sorts), and occasionally scenario for notable sorts of art, but never in connection to actual people-person stuff.

Now I'm kinda' wondering if there's an actual name differentiation when it comes up in the original language. Not curious enough to go check, but japan being japan I'd imagine there's different words.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #69781 on: February 18, 2014, 06:06:46 pm »

Humans can outrun most animals. It's one of the things we're actually p. good at.
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This is something I was not aware of and frankly find it quite surprising, but I'm willing to learn.
Unless you mean marathon-like running.

Pretty much. Virtually all other animals on this planet are sprinters (the only exceptions that I can think of right now are the wolf, and possibly the horse). Most hunters use incredible speed in very short bursts to catch their prey, while many prey animals use their speed to evade this initial rush and run away for a few minutes, placing themselves outside the attacker's range.

Humans, by contrast, are marathoners, able to keep up a decent pace for days if needed. Thus, an antelope or ibex would dash away from the funny-looking thing with the pointy stick, then start taking it easy, only to find it under attack by the same creature a few minutes later. So it dashes away again, funny-looking thing shows up. Eventually, either the human stabs it, or it just keels over and dies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_hunting

Humans are the Terminators of the animal kingdom.

I disagree with the idea that humans were made for hunting. That is something that we developed over the years due to our need for proteins and other nutrients which could be more easily attained through the ingestion of meat, our brain did that, so now we have weapons.
Bullshit. The earliest forms of humanity found have pointed teeth. No herbivorous or insectivorous animal has pointed teeth, they are used ONLY to kill.

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Also, most human instincts (especially the ones activated during a rush of adrenaline) are directed towards escape. We DO have means of defending ourselves, but they are not the primary approach of a normal human being.

Also: Fear activates our "RUN" instincts, which makes anyone involuntarly give a lot of opportunity to an enemy.

Again wrong. The adrenaline response is called "fight or flight" for a reason. When humans are threatened by something, our first instinct is to kill it unless it is so frightening that we see no ability to.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #69782 on: February 18, 2014, 06:19:25 pm »

Now I'm kinda' wondering if there's an actual name differentiation when it comes up in the original language.
It's use is identical to lolicon, just little boys instead of little girls. Not any less disturbing to talk or know much about...
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #69783 on: February 18, 2014, 06:23:07 pm »

And about martial arts, nowadays they are seen more as a sport, so usually they are taught with the preconception of being used as such, in octagons and such (even though senseis and masters may say otherwise).

I've had my share of fights with people who trained martial arts (troubled childhood/teenagerhood) and i've learned through these that most fighting styles are taught within a situational range, if martial artists are caught out of their situational sphere (if they have no opportunity to use their moves) they'll be at least 50% more vulnerable.
Also: Fear activates our "RUN" instincts, which makes anyone involuntarly give a lot of opportunity to an enemy.
There's a big range of skill levels in martial arts. When you begin learning you are worse off in a fight if you try to apply your martial arts training. There's a point after a couple years where you get dangerous, even in sparring, and the next couple years is learning how to choose your target and how much force to use. Beyond that you get better at everything, faster, stronger, and learn new specialized techniques.

I agree with your situational assessment of martial arts. If you fight a shark, you want to fight him on the beach and not in the water. If you're a grappler, you're going to try to turn the fight into a grapple. Similarly if you're a long-legged striker you want to keep your distance. Learning within one school is problematic because everyone learns the same thing, meaning you rarely spar with someone trying to pull you out of your water and onto their beach. A specialist, striker or grappler, will be at a disadvantage if the fight becomes the opposite. A generalist is weaker in each than the specialist in his specialty; his goal will be to identify the specialty of his opponent and force the fight into the opposite. Two specialists or two generalists must rely on surprise, circumstances, and in their own morale, skill, and conditioning being greater than his opponent's.

In addition, people who are not trained can be dangerous mainly because they do stupid things that normal people don't predict. Such as exposure, telling, overextension, poor balance, lack of awareness. These can occasionally turn into "if it works, it ain't stupid" but 90% of the time the stupid move will get the inexperienced fighter hammered. And because he lacks conditioning he may be out of the fight.

In general, martial arts training prepares a person for a fight better than not training, except that in the first year a student shouldn't expect to be any better in a fight than if he hadn't trained. Take anyone who has trained as a grappling specialist for six years against someone who hasn't trained at all, and even in a striking fight the grappler will win. A grappling fight will be over almost instantly.

Further, because the untrained person lacks the moral training and understanding of how much he can hurt someone, he generally fights as hard as he can. A martial artist who fights as hard as he can may kill his opponent. A warrior who fights as hard as he can will kill his enemy or die himself. Because the martial artist is in the habit of holding himself back, of learning control and discipline, he may be at a temporary disadvantage compared to an untrained opponent. The "wild cat" fighter may win frequently against unskilled fighters, but against a reasonably well-trained and conditioned martial artist he will lose. Consider the differences in physical output between you and an Olympic track athlete. Training hard at something does make a human extremely more competent than an untrained human. On a bad day, just out of bed and still groggy, without breakfast, and giving you a 10 second head start any normal dude would still lose a race to that Olympic athlete. The same can be said of fighting. Then again, anyone can screw up (see: Figure Skating) and the best fighter can be blindsided. This is why tactical considerations like surprise and circumstances like weather, lighting, nearby friends, positioning, your leg being asleep, etc. can affect a fight so tremendously.

Finally I've found that the competent, confident martial artists tend to not get into fights. It's the young guys who have Bruce Lee as their ringtone and work as a bouncer just so they can beat people up, who lack confidence in themselves, who don't care about anything but punching real hard and having big muscles, who end up on the evening news. Dunning-Kruger suggests we can expect that the people most sure of themselves are somewhat correlated with people who have poor skills.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #69784 on: February 18, 2014, 06:31:09 pm »

When humans are threatened by something, our first instinct is to kill it unless it is so frightening that we see no ability to.
Remember when i mentioned fear as a trigger to our "escape instinct"?

Now picture this: You're on your house, typing on your computer when suddenly your hear someone smashing the door. If you have any means of finding a gun/blade/blunt object with which to defend yourself, you're automatically going to panic, know why? Because you'll be afraid to die, you'll be afraid to die because you know you won't be able to protect yourself from the unknown, you won't be able to protect yourself from the unknown because you insinctively know that your own body wasn't made to fight, unless there is no other choice. This instinct came from our ancestors. This used to happen a lot back when we were the hunted ones.

Since we didn't have shit to protect ourselves with, we used our brain to develop means of being the hunter, in contrast to being the prey.

We are like cats, we run, and when we're cornered we do whatever we can to survive.

Now i'll be going out of this argument before it turns into a flame war, we have divergent ideas and i don't think we'll reach an agreement here. I'm just exposing my ideas and my knowledge about the topic by the way, i might be wrong, but i don't suggest you guys go test your "predator" theories.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #69785 on: February 18, 2014, 06:38:34 pm »

Now i'll be going out of this argument before it turns into a flame war, we have divergent ideas and i don't think we'll reach an agreement here. I'm just exposing my ideas and my knowledge about the topic by the way, i might be wrong, but i don't suggest you guys go test your "predator" theories.

Not trying to start a flame war, but I still want to get a snarky last word in that has nothing to do with what I originally stated and the responses therefore.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #69786 on: February 18, 2014, 06:39:52 pm »

Alright people, y'all need to make like a radiator and cool it.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #69787 on: February 18, 2014, 06:45:13 pm »

I'm not heated up.

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The knowledge of human anatomy teached in martial arts is very vague, like: "Apply pressure to this, and this will break" or "Punch this".

If anything, its just funny.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #69788 on: February 18, 2014, 06:47:53 pm »

Then how about making like a dubstep track and dropping it? This derail has gone on for long it no longer has anything to do with being sad.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #69789 on: February 18, 2014, 07:19:56 pm »

Yes, the Dubstep That Made You Sad Today Thread.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #69790 on: February 18, 2014, 08:49:46 pm »

All of it?
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #69791 on: February 18, 2014, 09:10:52 pm »

If you're talking about martial arts you could move it to the exercise thread.

*hint, hint
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #69792 on: February 18, 2014, 09:19:10 pm »

Debating wether or not I should pull an all-nighter to try and reset my sleep schedule. It's already 3 AM so I should be in bed anytime now. But I'd really like to get it back to normal because waking up at noon every day isn't that fun. But if I do stay up that means tommorrow is giong to be very shitty, and I'm going to see the Lego movie tommorrow, don't wanna go all zombie :C
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #69793 on: February 18, 2014, 09:25:46 pm »

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #69794 on: February 18, 2014, 09:40:32 pm »

My grandma just called me a guy in a Facebook message. I'm not sure what to do here. Do I correct her? How do I correct her? I sure as hell want to say "Seriously? You misgendered me on my FEMALE Facebook profile, where I have a FEMALE name and FEMALE pronouns? Are you doing this on purpose?" but of course that would be rude, and I don't want to be rude to someone who's sending me presents all the time.
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