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[misko27]

Possibility A: She will reciprocate your feelings.
Possibility B: She won't reciprocate your feelings.
Action A: Tell her.
Action B: Do nothing.
Outcome A: Happies result.
Outcome B: No happies.

P(A) AND A(A)=O(A)
P(A) AND A(B)=O(B)
P(B) AND A(A)=O(B)
P(B) AND A(B)=O(B)

So you may only have a 25% chance overall for happies, but that increases to 50% if you choose A(A), versus 0% for A(B). What you're getting hung up on is the trying to ascertain the mathematical  value of P(A). Which can be incredibly difficult to determine from indirect observation.

Think of it as Schrodinger's Dating Service. Until you say something, she both likes you and doesn't like you. Actually telling her collapses the quantum waveform potentiality.
So if you get nervous while telling her, you can always apologize that you're nervous because you're performing a quantum physics experiment. 

That last part assumes that all possibilities are equally likely.

Plus, the other option isn't a choice, since whether she would have said no is irrelevant. It isn't happiness, no happiness, happiness must be assigned a general point value for a real analysis:

# Say Something (SS) Say Nothing(SN) She would say Yes(Y) 2 0* She would say No(N) -2 0 *Where zero is how happy/unhappy you are right now. Although all values may be higher or lower depending on your mental specifics, this is their rough relationship. If you think it is likely you will fail, or you doubt the value of SSY(Say Something, she says Yes), it's safer to simply cut your losses with SNY and SNN by merely getting over her. Trust me, this is how my love-life works, I know this stuff.

[TD1]

Why must everything be reduced to harsh, cold maths?

The human condition is quite incalculable.

[Bauglir]

Suddenly, I agreed to work a midnight shift. I regret it immediately, but somebody's going to have to do it, and I haven't yet bitten that particular bullet in my time here. They really need to add an additional shift that typically does non-urgent tasks, so that they can be reassigned in case of sick calls. This happens too often.

[Harry Baldman]

Why must everything be reduced to harsh, cold maths?

The human condition is quite incalculable.

It's hardly harsh, cold math. Math isn't cold and harsh, for one. It's really quite accessible, friendly and useful for a great many things. And it's just as good of a language as any to express the facts of life and relationships. Certainly as good as English at the very least.

If you think it is likely you will fail, or you doubt the value of SSY(Say Something, she says Yes), it's safer to simply cut your losses with SNY and SNN by merely getting over her. Trust me, this is how my love-life works, I know this stuff.

Trouble is, SN creates a lot of uncertainty, and for at least a few people invites long-term obsession and prolonged, terrible suffering. I had a similar problem not too long ago, and was just about ready to venture into Say Something territory, hoping that I'd get the SSN result and resolve the matter efficiently and effectively, but then realized that the SSY possibility, while remote and desirable at first thought, was nevertheless a possibility, and that I most assuredly couldn't be bothered to deal with it if it came up.

Granted, it's pretty easy to fix the game to most definitely get the SSN result and desired resolution, but that involves making a complete ass of yourself and deliberately sabotaging your love life, and if you're doing that, why even have a love life in the first place?

[TD1]

Why must everything be reduced to harsh, cold maths?

The human condition is quite incalculable.

It's hardly harsh, cold math. Math isn't cold and harsh, for one. It's really quite accessible, friendly and useful for a great many things. And it's just as good of a language as any to express the facts of life and relationships. Certainly as good as English at the very least.

I wasn't being serious, but I am being serious in that it's not as good at explaining relationships. It's good at predicting outcomes. It's good at giving facts. But the written word will always surpass it in that it can connect emotionally with the reader. After all, that's what relationships are about; emotion. Maths can no more give a stirring, good expression of a relationship than pigs can fly.

[Ogdibus]

Digital media?

[Darvi]

Frankly, I can emotionally connect better with math than poetry any day.

[TD1]

Drat, I'm preaching to the wrong flock

Ah well, as Nietzsche said "You have your way and I have my way. As for the right and correct way, it does not exist."

[Knit tie]

Drat, I'm preaching to the wrong flock

Ah well, as Nietzsche said "You have your way and I have my way. As for the right and correct way, it does not exist."

Don't worry, Dwarfy, I prefer my love letters in English as well.

[AlleeCat]

The DFC Steam chat...

Spoiler: Examples of Engy being a terrible moderator (click to show/hide)

Everyone in the chat: Hey Engy, you probably shouldn't kick people just for having a different opinion from you.
Engy: I didn't do that, he was clearly being argumentative.
Everyone else: You were egging him on, though. Here are the chat logs that prove it.
Engy: I mean
Engy: Yeah
Engy: I totally did that
Engy: But also I am supreme ruler of all that is correct, and he was incorrect, so that means he was breaking the rules.

ACTUAL CHAT LOGS THOUGH
1:41 PM - Scriptwolf: dude snowden has leak so much stuff which has been a real eye opener to the workings of the intellegence community and how much the likes of the NSA are screwing everyone over
1:41 PM - U+1F419 left chat.
1:42 PM - Engy: ...
1:42 PM - Engy: Umm
1:42 PM - Engy: Dude
1:42 PM - Xeron: You mean you didn't expect spying agencies to spy on you ?
1:42 PM - Engy: What did you think the National Security Agency was doing?
1:42 PM - Hugehead: Ugh just stop now
1:42 PM - Hugehead: This doesn't go anywhere good
1:42 PM - Engy: Like seriously
1:42 PM - Xeron: But yes
1:42 PM - Xeron: Stop it
1:42 PM - Engy: Snowden was a dumbass
1:42 PM - Xeron: Everything here is turning into a debate/argument
1:42 PM - Xeron: Can we remain to videogames ?
1:42 PM - Xeron: VIDEOGAMES YOU KNOW ?
1:42 PM - AlleeCat2: so how come my apc was firing at random civvies?
1:42 PM - Scriptwolf: i think it was a good thing but thats my 2 bit
1:42 PM - Engy: I mean
1:42 PM - Engy: How was it good?
1:42 PM - Xeron: VIDEOGAMES DAMNIT !
1:43 PM - Engy: What did he leak that people didn't already know?
1:43 PM - AlleeCat2: GUYS FUCKING DROP IT
1:43 PM - Engy: Wha helped?
1:43 PM - Engy: Like seriously
1:43 PM - AlleeCat2: SERIOUSLY
1:43 PM - Xeron: Huge
1:43 PM - Xeron: The SuperHappy chat still exists ?
1:43 PM - Scriptwolf: becasue now goverments have had thier dirty secrets hung out in public view they are being forced to make changes
1:43 PM - Engy: Sigh
1:43 PM - AlleeCat2: take it to pms if its so important
1:43 PM - Engy: They already were out
1:43 PM - Scriptwolf was kicked by Engy.
1:43 PM - Xeron: Alright Engy
1:44 PM - Xeron: Now i don't see a reaso for a kick there
1:44 PM - Engy: I didn't start it
1:44 PM - Hugehead: But you continued it
1:44 PM - Scriptwolf entered chat.
1:44 PM - Engy: Sure
1:44 PM - AlleeCat2: yes but you continued it
1:44 PM - Hugehead: "That's my 2 bits, now I'm done"
1:44 PM - Hugehead: NO YOU HAVE TO TELL ME WHY
1:44 PM - Scriptwolf: wow man what a blanant abuse of power...
1:44 PM - Engy: I mean
1:44 PM - Engy: Sure
1:44 PM - Scriptwolf was kicked by Engy.
1:44 PM - Engy: I mean
1:44 PM - Scriptwolf entered chat.
1:44 PM - Engy: Like seriously
1:44 PM - Scriptwolf: stop it
1:44 PM - Engy: We've been down this before
1:44 PM - Xeron: I'm afraid he'll do it again
1:44 PM - AlleeCat2: engy dont be a dick
1:45 PM - Engy: I mean
1:45 PM - Xeron: I know from experience
1:45 PM - Engy: I'm not
1:45 PM - AlleeCat2: you are
1:45 PM - Engy: No
1:45 PM - Scriptwolf: engy if you do it again im going to kael
1:45 PM - Engy: Sure
1:45 PM - Engy: Go for it
1:45 PM - AlleeCat2: you kicked him for continuing a conversation you egged him onto to begin with
1:45 PM - Engy: I mean
1:45 PM - Engy: He doesn't have a legit reason
1:45 PM - Scriptwolf: for what?!
1:45 PM - Engy: he doesn't even know what snowden actually did
1:46 PM - AlleeCat2: thats irrelevent
1:46 PM - Scriptwolf: rather than being a dick you could talke to me about it you know
1:46 PM - Engy: I iknow
1:46 PM - Engy: No
1:46 PM - Engy: I tried
1:46 PM - Engy: and you just ignored it
1:46 PM - Scriptwolf: no you really did not
1:46 PM - Engy: and look
1:46 PM - Engy: no one wants this here
1:46 PM - Engy: so drop it
1:46 PM - Engy: End of Story
1:46 PM - JimboM12: behave guys, we have a guest in our chat
1:46 PM - Scriptwolf: im fine with it your the one who kicked me... pth what ever
1:46 PM - Engy: I mean
1:46 PM - Engy: Like seriously
1:46 PM - Engy: People died
1:47 PM - Engy: because of Snowden

Not even a minute after saying he was going to drop it, he starts the conversation again...

[Harry Baldman]

I wasn't being serious, but I am being serious in that it's not as good at explaining relationships. It's good at predicting outcomes. It's good at giving facts. But the written word will always surpass it in that it can connect emotionally with the reader. After all, that's what relationships are about; emotion. Maths can no more give a stirring, good expression of a relationship than pigs can fly.

You just haven't found the right math, man. Out there somewhere is the math you are looking for. It's probably got some beautiful graphs and charts, and equations to die for. And you can input all of your specific variables into it, and it'll never talk back at you or be tired and unwilling to respond because of a tough day, or make vague and infuriating insinuations, because math is cool that way.

Besides, the written word can't connect emotionally with the reader. No mode of expression connects with a person emotionally. It's all the person's imagination. And each person is different in that respect. A relationship is, at its core, a series of facts explained and connected. And with mathematics facts can be explained and emotions quantitatively or qualitatively described, similarly to how the written word attempts to describe emotions on a qualitative (sometimes even quantitative) basis. Whether your imagination is captured by any of the many possible descriptions is a question of your mental wiring.

[Descan]

Some of the most beautiful things are in math! D:<

Like, to be cliche, Mandelbrot sets~

[RedKing]

I wasn't being serious, but I am being serious in that it's not as good at explaining relationships. It's good at predicting outcomes. It's good at giving facts. But the written word will always surpass it in that it can connect emotionally with the reader. After all, that's what relationships are about; emotion. Maths can no more give a stirring, good expression of a relationship than pigs can fly.

You just haven't found the right math, man. Out there somewhere is the math you are looking for. It's probably got some beautiful graphs and charts, and equations to die for. And you can input all of your specific variables into it, and it'll never talk back at you or be tired and unwilling to respond because of a tough day, or make vague and infuriating insinuations, because math is cool that way.

And hopefully a nice set of parabolas. Just sayin...

[TD1]

Show me something beautiful, awe inspiring in maths. Something that inspires wonders, stimulates the mind and transports you to a realm of fancy, and whimsy. If you can find that, I'll agree with you. Until then, I'll leave English to do what it was meant to do.

[Vector]

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