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LordBaal

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #115485 on: April 11, 2019, 02:43:48 pm »

We'll sell everything we haven't already and gather the money, the only way to do it is thought land, it's a roughly seven day bus ride once we are in the border with Colombia. By land it like 300$ each, by air it would be at least double that and pete never got his passport so I think he can't travel by air.

I don't want to sound too nosy, but here is just something to consider.

Brazil has instituted some strong asylkum seeker protection laws back in the 90's in cooperation with ONU, you might be able to seek asylum here if you walk up to the border. There is no requirement beyond the usual "no drug trafficking/ no war crime", you can just enter the country and talk to the first Polícia Federal officer you find. They look like this. Other branches of police and army may point you towards an office.

From Venezuela you can enter either Roraima or Amazonas. I'm all the way across the country, in Rio Grande do Sul, so I might not be of much help. Amazonas is basically empty at that stretch, so go for Roraima. Roraima's shelters are very overcrowded, start moving south as soon as possible. Pará is a little better, but you should probably take a bus down to Tocantins or São Paulo.

You will need to fill this form(thoughtfully in Spanish). You can stay in the country while you wait for a final decision on your request, and a Brazilian lawyer will represent you free of charge. After you get in you should enter in contact with the closest CRAI(Centro de Referência e Acolhida Para Imigrantes). They are very helpful.

When you finish talking to the police and your asylum request made, you will be making an provisional protocol, which outlaws deporting  you to the offending country, a CTPS so that you may work legally, you get all the labor rights a brazilian has, such as overtime pay, paid vacation, mandatory rest weekday, minumum wage and whatnot. Also CPF, a common ID and tax number all brazilians have. Try using the CPF card when people ask you for ID, since no one recognizes the provisional protocol when they first see it. They probably won't even notice you aren't brazilian.

After finishing up on that stuff you get the rights of a Brazilian citizen. You will receive medical treatment at every public hospital and many private hospital's also can treat you and bill the government afterwards, so take your family to the nearest medical facility for vaccinations. There are some essential vaccinations for local diseases and the like which are free for all brazilians.

You should also apply for the "Bolsa Família" program. It gives you a bank card for you to withdraw some money every month. It is a pitiful amount, not even rent, but it should help with not starving.

In general, everything available for a Brazilian is also available for a refugee, save politics. There are some public service programs for employment of refugees, but they are very rare.


After your request is granted you will go again to the federal police and make a CRNM. It makes you a full citizen in everything but name, and doesn't discriminate on how you got it: it shows "residente" no matter how you became one. It looks like this.


Now the bad. Yeah, we got Bolsonaro in. He is very reactionary. A lot of people take his election as encouragement for their xenophobia. You will be disrespected. Bolsonaro, however, isn't going too crazy on the issue and isn't curtailing any refugee rights. Maybe he just wants Brazil to look strong in comparison to the "Communist Disaster" in Venezuela. It matters little, as he probably won't get congressional approval on anything too bad, so you should be okay.

Once again, just something to consider.

Wow! Thanks for putting so much thought on this. This kind of things rekindle one's faith in mankind. While it provably wont be what we'll do, it's certainly nice to have a so well laid out option! Would you mind if I translate it and share it on a immigration group on whatsapp?
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #115486 on: April 11, 2019, 03:40:33 pm »

Wow! Thanks for putting so much thought on this. This kind of things rekindle one's faith in mankind. While it provably wont be what we'll do, it's certainly nice to have a so well laid out option! Would you mind if I translate it and share it on a immigration group on whatsapp?
I wouldn't mind, actually I would be happy if it could be of help to anyone at all.
When you do that, also point them towards the UNHCR official site, it has all important information about the legal proceedings.
Make very clear that Roraima is overcrowded and unsafe, and one should try to stay close to the police and army. There have even been refugee killings in some cities there, so it is not the final destination you want.

It pains me that I am incapable of lending you help Baal. Stay safe.
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« Reply #115487 on: April 11, 2019, 05:44:00 pm »

I get to endure body horror due to a potential "benign" growth in my brain.
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« Reply #115488 on: April 11, 2019, 09:27:50 pm »

Thanks! We'll try to be safe.

Hugo wtf? Do you have those pork related parasites???
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« Reply #115489 on: April 11, 2019, 10:58:02 pm »

More like a (thankfully non-cancerous tumor) on my pituitary gland.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #115490 on: April 11, 2019, 11:31:46 pm »

Non-cancerous is good, but the pituitary is known for regulating hormones. Is that what they're worried about?

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« Reply #115491 on: April 12, 2019, 02:15:16 am »

Yeah. It's likely a prolactinoma.
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« Reply #115492 on: April 12, 2019, 03:24:43 am »

Procrastinoma?
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« Reply #115493 on: April 12, 2019, 05:39:27 am »

Procrastinoma?
He means he's getting boobs, scriver
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #115494 on: April 12, 2019, 07:54:35 am »

Straight to the OOC thread.
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« Reply #115495 on: April 12, 2019, 10:38:42 am »

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« Reply #115496 on: April 12, 2019, 11:30:58 am »

Procrastinoma?
He means he's getting boobs, scriver
Or lactating.
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« Reply #115497 on: April 12, 2019, 03:44:38 pm »

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« Reply #115498 on: April 12, 2019, 08:45:52 pm »

So my store hired some African-American employees recently. Today, we get a crank call at the service desk. No points for guessing the subject or tone of the call.

I don't know how to deal with the fact that there are bad people in the world. Humans are so petty, cruel, ignorant, short-sighted and selfish that it'd be hilarious if it weren't for all the violence and ruined lives. No matter how much good is done, it can all be torn down in a second by someone acting in bad faith.
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« Reply #115499 on: April 12, 2019, 08:59:13 pm »

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