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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116895 on: November 06, 2019, 07:45:02 am »

He didn't tell him to take shrooms. He told him to try reducing his alcohol and caffeine intake and not comparing his successes/setbacks to those of others, which seems like vague enough advice to be helpful to a fair few people in a bad place.

Here, I'll even provide a quote.

Stopping alcohol and caffeine consumption will help you with half of that, perhaps meditate on the thought of wrong. What is wrong? What is failure?
Don't let others tell you what is successful and righteous. Discover yourself.


People are jumping on him here and discounting his advice entirely based on things he's said in the past, in other conversations. I feel as though some of you didn't even read the whole discussion, just saw who was involved in it and jumped in.

Not sure how the hell any of that is supposed to help offer someone "support when they're going through a dark place". ::)



Edit: Also, microdosing is a fairly well-documented thing. I can't speak as to its effectiveness since I have never tried such a thing, but the whole idea is to not experience the hallucinatory effects of the substance in question, whilst still receiving whatever psychological benefits it offers.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116896 on: November 06, 2019, 07:50:58 am »

Here's the thing though. I've been thinking of cutting down my caffeine usage to see if it helps restore my energy somewhat. God knows I've been drinking coffee for the greater part of my life.

But the trouble is. Without coffee. What do you even drink in the morning?
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116897 on: November 06, 2019, 07:53:42 am »

Orange juice (in moderation)

Herbal tea

etc.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116898 on: November 06, 2019, 07:56:29 am »

Assuming conclusions due to post history.
This horse you rode in on seems to be the one im talking to, not the actual rider.
Neigh enough of that. I was simply here to offer help to someone who is hurting.
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Other people's point being, or should have been, do not give medical advice. you suggested SSRIs. SSRIs have a known suicide-increasing risk.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3353604/
It's really not good to throw out random medical advice if not qualified to do so. That can actually kill people, literally. It's just fortunate that the recommendation wasn't for something over the counter. For example, never suggest people should take aspirin. Aspirin deaths are pretty frequent - that stuff kills about 10 Americans per day. Point being why seemingly innocuous medical advice is best avoided.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116899 on: November 06, 2019, 08:22:36 am »

But the trouble is. Without coffee. What do you even drink in the morning?
Beer, obviously!
https://youtu.be/uEK9oK02D1M


@Reelya: I somehow really doubt he was asking whether they were on an SSRI in order to recommend one if they weren't... unless I missed the post where he actually suggested them?
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116900 on: November 06, 2019, 08:29:32 am »

Do you want me to suggest something for your depression? Are you on any ssri?

The recommendation is definitely there, it's implicit. If you start bringing attention to one specific option, that's the same as advertising/shilling that option. The objection is like saying the question "Do you smoke Camel Cigarettes?" is just an innocent question and is in no way promoting Camel Cigarettes.

 The guy was clearly Playing Doctor, or attempting to, until other people derailed that.

And even if he wasn't "recommending" SSRIs, what was he going to do with the answer to that question? Obviously, he was planning to give medical advice based on the answer.
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« Reply #116901 on: November 06, 2019, 08:54:12 am »

Sure, the wording is kinda misleading without context, haha.
I doubt any sort of psychonaut would be extolling the virtues of SSRIs, though. In my experience folks who are into that sort of thing tend to be critical of them to some degree. 

I don't see what's wrong with offering advice, though.
Beats just promising "thoughts and prayers" or some such drek.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116902 on: November 06, 2019, 09:01:18 am »

I was ill going into daylight savings, then almost passed out at work for the first 4 hours, so I took a day and a half off to sleep. I have vague recollections of the past week. I also have something overdue for our new quarterly review thing at work, but it's new and I'm locked out of the program again.


Using caffeine does overall reduce your energy. Though, quitting it would probably be worse!

Solve that by injecting ATP directly into your mitochondrion.


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There's evidence that it is effective...
Oh I'm aware. Believe me, I'm aware. Psilocybin, LSD, ketamine; I've been informed of a number of alternative treatments. Some that show a lot of promise!

Considering that there are other, safer drugs out there though
And therein lies the rub. I'm not saying it isn't potentially effective, I'm saying that there are potentially very severe side effects. And also saying that one should generally try to learn more about the situation before suggesting such alternatives.

You want to know about side effects of potentially-useful drugs, try combining anti-anxiety/depression meds with anything. Food, water, caffeine, not having caffeine, alcohol, sleep...
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116903 on: November 06, 2019, 09:46:41 am »

Not exactly a sad, but it's the most appropriate thread:

Yesterday was the hottest day of the year here, and it isn't even summer yet. Apparent temperature was around 50C, dunno actual temperature but it was around 40.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116904 on: November 06, 2019, 10:30:28 am »

It's not technically today's sad, but fuck, it was living hell. I couldn't sleep properly for two days straight, and I had good sleep only today.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116905 on: November 06, 2019, 11:46:09 am »

Orange juice (in moderation)

Herbal tea

etc.
Extreme moderation. If it must be juice, squeeze your own. For greatest health benefits simply eat an orange.

I also don't recommend milk, though again if you must take it then whole milk may be best.

Personally I just have water and/or tea. I stopped having issues with caffeine when I cut out energy drinks - now a cup of tea perks me up without putting me on a cycle of energy crashes.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116906 on: November 06, 2019, 12:20:09 pm »

My wife's troublesome sister went off the road while drunk and was ejected through the windshield. She's probably going to die today.
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« Reply #116907 on: November 06, 2019, 12:27:57 pm »

My wife's troublesome sister went off the road while drunk and was ejected through the windshield. She's probably going to die today.
Shit, dude... Mixed feelings galore. Pretty heavy regardless... How's the wife doing?

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116908 on: November 06, 2019, 12:36:35 pm »

Oh dear lord. I'm very sorry, for you and your wife's family.

I don't think there's much more to be said, unfortunately...
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #116909 on: November 06, 2019, 12:47:23 pm »

She's minute to minute.
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