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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #120405 on: December 06, 2021, 09:35:53 am »

It is believed that this is why heroin / morphine / similar opiates are so addictive. Most heroin addicts will tell you they went beyond their first shot, to try and find that feeling of complete bliss again. They also say they have never felt it the way their first shot felt ever again.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #120406 on: December 06, 2021, 02:17:58 pm »

Not everybody who would pray for you would be Christian, but I emphasize with the sentiment.

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I had morphine post surgery to remove a genital cyst and it did ... seemingly nothing haha. I woke up screaming and I kept on screaming. They were like "I'm going to give you more pain meds" and I was like "LOL please stop." They gave me codeine or something afterwards and I just didn't bother with it. . .
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #120407 on: December 06, 2021, 02:22:51 pm »

Eh, the time or two I've been on opiates of note, they worked, but it was a wildly miserable experience only better than vicious agony in comparison. I do not enjoy the feeling of having control ripped from me by some substance or another, ha. It's fundamentally not pleasant, even if it's relaxing the body or whatever.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #120408 on: December 06, 2021, 07:30:23 pm »

I am no atheist. Atheism is a belief just like religion. You cannot prove that god exists, but you cannot prove that god does not exist either.
So I consider myself an agnost. I don't know. I put my faith in what we do know. Science.

I am an a - theist.
One who is without theism.
Theism is a belief in god/gods.
I am an atheist, someone who lacks belief in gods/god.

This doesn't mean that I can't think of gods/god as possible, only that faith isn't part of my calculation. As per my current understanding of science and the world, the possibility is vanishingly small. But with the right evidence (and it would need to convincingly explain a lot) I'd adjust my worldview.

Atheism does not seek 'to prove that god does not exist.' It doesn't actively push any agenda, really. It just kinda cuts faith out of the equation.

Agnostics believe that we can never prove/disprove the existence of god/gods. Though, granted, each agnostic seems to have a slightly different definition. It doesn't concern itself with what you put into the equation, it's only concerned with the end answer - whether there is or is not some form of divinity.

Edit: To attempt further clarification:
It's possible to be an Agnostic Christian - someone who believes in God, but doesn't think we can ever know one way or another whether he exists.

It is possible to be an Agnostic Atheist - someone who doesn't believe in god/gods, and also thinks we can never know whether they exist.

It is not possible to be an Atheistic Christian - someone who doesn't believe in God and believes in God.

((Some may prefer to replace 'Christian' with 'theist' in the above. I'm just playing to the crowd  ;) ))


EditEdit: Apparently this discussion moved over to the Railgun thread, so... oops?  :P
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #120409 on: December 06, 2021, 08:14:37 pm »

I am no atheist. Atheism is a belief just like religion. You cannot prove that god exists, but you cannot prove that god does not exist either.
So I consider myself an agnost. I don't know. I put my faith in what we do know. Science.

I am an a - theist.
One who is without theism.
Theism is a belief in god/gods.
I am an atheist, someone who lacks belief in gods/god.

This doesn't mean that I can't think of gods/god as possible, only that faith isn't part of my calculation. As per my current understanding of science and the world, the possibility is vanishingly small. But with the right evidence (and it would need to convincingly explain a lot) I'd adjust my worldview.

Atheism does not seek 'to prove that god does not exist.' It doesn't actively push any agenda, really. It just kinda cuts faith out of the equation.

Agnostics believe that we can never prove/disprove the existence of god/gods. Though, granted, each agnostic seems to have a slightly different definition. It doesn't concern itself with what you put into the equation, it's only concerned with the end answer - whether there is or is not some form of divinity.

Edit: To attempt further clarification:
It's possible to be an Agnostic Christian - someone who believes in God, but doesn't think we can ever know one way or another whether he exists.

It is possible to be an Agnostic Atheist - someone who doesn't believe in god/gods, and also thinks we can never know whether they exist.

It is not possible to be an Atheistic Christian - someone who doesn't believe in God and believes in God.

((Some may prefer to replace 'Christian' with 'theist' in the above. I'm just playing to the crowd  ;) ))


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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #120410 on: December 06, 2021, 08:24:58 pm »

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #120411 on: December 06, 2021, 11:07:34 pm »

I'm not really fond of being prayed for. I'm actually Catholic (surprise) but it's hard to imagine most Christians actually wanting me to be alive, let alone happy.
Fuck 'em.
Live a long and happy life, just to keep fucking with them.

I'm often downright offended when people publicly claim to pray for others, as I feel they do so for their own glory rather than any actual comforting.
A more private offering is fine, as it indicates they care, and that is nice.

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« Reply #120412 on: December 06, 2021, 11:29:31 pm »

If it makes you feel any better(?), you'd be in pretty solid scriptural company regarding that discomfort. Public prayer in general, and especially as part of a social demonstration, is somethin' Matthew at a minimum was like, "Yo', seriously, don't do that shit, it'll bar the gates of heaven to you dawg." He warned folks about those prayer stairs. Knocks all your heaven stuff out your pockets or somethin'.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #120413 on: December 07, 2021, 08:39:09 am »

I just had a sad realization.
It's so obvious that I wonder
Why it's taken several years
To have this realization.
I am older than Toady.
I may die before Toady.
Therefore I may never see
DF's final form, given the
Assumption that development
Ends when he ends.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #120414 on: December 07, 2021, 08:42:12 am »

I'm not really fond of being prayed for. I'm actually Catholic (surprise) but it's hard to imagine most Christians actually wanting me to be alive, let alone happy.
Fuck 'em.
Live a long and happy life, just to keep fucking with them.

I'm often downright offended when people publicly claim to pray for others, as I feel they do so for their own glory rather than any actual comforting.
A more private offering is fine, as it indicates they care, and that is nice.

Pointing out that "don't pray publicly in such a way that your praying is visible to other people" is pretty much explicit in the Gospels. Frumple beat me to the point.

I just had a sad realization.
It's so obvious that I wonder
Why it's taken several years
To have this realization.
I am older than Toady.
I may die before Toady.
Therefore I may never see
DF's final form, given the
Assumption that development
Ends when he ends.
 :'(

Sad to think about.

It's interesting that something as mundane as DF's long development cycle forces us to think about mortality and its consequences. I think it's fitting, given that legacy is one of DF's central themes.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #120415 on: December 07, 2021, 09:11:46 am »

I hope I don't die in a car crash or an armed robbery or something and don't get to see DF finally release.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #120416 on: December 07, 2021, 03:04:19 pm »

I'm not really fond of being prayed for. I'm actually Catholic (surprise) but it's hard to imagine most Christians actually wanting me to be alive, let alone happy.

Can't doubt for a second there are nasty people out there going after your head, we've all been there, but I certainly don't think most resent you. I bet they want you to be happy, and that's what drives their attitude. It's just your perspectives are at odds, and can't agree on what's good.

Speaking of which, why are you even a Catholic? That is, still a Catholic. It seems to me you've given those beliefs up already. And I'm in no way trying to upset you, I seriously think it would be better for you to stick to the path you've set out for yourself, rather than trying to appease both sides, if you get me.

Be it however it be, I wish you luck. I hope you'll find the right way.

I just had a sad realization.
It's so obvious that I wonder
Why it's taken several years
To have this realization.
I am older than Toady.
I may die before Toady.
Therefore I may never see
DF's final form, given the
Assumption that development
Ends when he ends.
 :'(

It's not about the destination, but the friends we've made   I mean the updates we played along the way. I'm happy for what we got so far. Seriously, DF is such an incomprehensible masterpiece of limitless potential, stories and art as it is... Oh dear, I've just pictured its FINAL FORM oh yeah I can see your point.

I hope I don't die in a car crash or an armed robbery or something and don't get to see DF finally release.

We all do, that would be a great loss indeed  ;) . But there's enough tragedies on this fallen world, we have to look for the joys of life. I think that's one of the prime goals of one's lifetime, to get to the point, when you reach true contentment, and you kinda don't mind if you die tomorrow or fifty years ahead. You just know, you've had a good run. Hard to get there, but it's a sense of wonder and ultimate peace, pricelessly dear.

It's easy to get overwhelmed by all the evil and destruction you encounter in the world, especially now when you can get news from each and every corner of the world in a blink. I mean, look at me when I joined the Bay, a lil' whiny child, unable to comprehend and process the new harsh realities, coming each and every day... But we all will have to stop worrying about things we can change. We need to get a hold of our lives, fix our homes, bring goodwill and kindness to the little spot we inhabit, the one place we can. We all need to say to ourselves one day, we've had a good run.

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #120417 on: December 07, 2021, 03:11:24 pm »

Speaking of which, why are you even a Catholic? That is, still a Catholic. It seems to me you've given those beliefs up already. And I'm in no way trying to upset you, I seriously think it would be better for you to stick to the path you've set out for yourself, rather than trying to appease both sides, if you get me.

Great grandma was a nun and the most precious object I own is her rosary.

My baseline beliefs and orientations about the mystery and unknowability of God are still in line with Catholic doctrine (and very incompatible with the more welcoming Protestants). I'm sure that I'd be considered faithless or apostate by the majority of Catholics, but I've never let group opinion stop me before.




I cleared out the last of my late work yesterday. It's stressful ... If I get kicked out of grad school in the next couple of weeks, please don't judge me. I'm really trying hard but it may not be good enough to get off of academic probation.

One more report to turn in today and a final to take tomorrow, and I'm done with the quarter.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #120418 on: December 07, 2021, 03:40:50 pm »

Eh, even if you get kicked out you'll have made it further than I have, or basically several tens/hundreds of thousands of people in my general area. I can guarantee any judgements will be positive ones :P
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« Reply #120419 on: December 07, 2021, 03:55:16 pm »

Great grandma was a nun and the most precious object I own is her rosary.

My baseline beliefs and orientations about the mystery and unknowability of God are still in line with Catholic doctrine (and very incompatible with the more welcoming Protestants). I'm sure that I'd be considered faithless or apostate by the majority of Catholics, but I've never let group opinion stop me before.

I see, that's fair. I'm flattered a bit even  ;) I was just worried a bit, stuff like this might result in lots of confusion and contention. It's not necessarily about being faithless, apostate, perhaps, the problem wirh calling oneself a Catholic, everyone's gonna assume you're in line with all of the doctrine, which might not be the case. If this is how you feel and what you believe, I won't try to convince otherwise, again, I'm not trying to blame you or anything. Just reminding that the world often doesn't care, and yes, that's quite sad as well.

I cleared out the last of my late work yesterday. It's stressful ... If I get kicked out of grad school in the next couple of weeks, please don't judge me. I'm really trying hard but it may not be good enough to get off of academic probation.

One more report to turn in today and a final to take tomorrow, and I'm done with the quarter.

Don't mind schools, I sure don't  :P Doesn't mean you're useless, weak or stupid. While I wasn't ever kicked out of a school, I've missed my chance to get to an university. And for a young man, after years of struggling learning 90% useless trivia that's not even interesting, the rest that's actually worth something one forgets quick, when you finally have a chance to prove yourself and build a fortune for you and others, you know, be a man, it just all shatters in an instant, because of five  or so points not enough on a piece of paper... Yeah that makes you feel quite bad. It's almost as if it's set up to make you feel this way, I hate schools. But alas, once again, the world doesn't care.

Okay now that was my little sad vent  :P the point is, don't feel bad if you fail at school. I hope you'll succeed, that you'll fare further than me in this painful endeavor. Wish you luck again.
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