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[Rainseeker]

Did I hear Toady imply that there would be randomly generated clowns? I am so excited for this.

Clowns?  No.  Evil denizens of the deep... yes.

[Neonivek]

Toady completely denied him

He didn't completely deny him. He said two important things in that regard

1) The the world should recognise your character and thus respect your character.
and
2) If Toady cannot do this, he may have no choice but to force this behavior (but that he is confident he won't need to)

[Footkerchief]

Clowns?  No.  Evil denizens of the deep... yes.

You might know already, but "clown" and "funhouse" are the new popular terms for "demon" and "whatever replaces the glowing pits," respectively.

And I think I did catch the hint that Johnny Chthonic was talking about, but I'll wait for the transcript to check.  (mallocks, you are a hero)

[Rainseeker]

Clowns?  No.  Evil denizens of the deep... yes.

You might know already, but "clown" and "funhouse" are the new popular terms for "demon" and "whatever replaces the glowing pits," respectively.

And I think I did catch the hint that Johnny Chthonic was talking about, but I'll wait for the transcript to check.  (mallocks, you are a hero)

Ya I know, I was just having fun with it too.  Who first came up with Clowns tho?

[Paul]

Haha, I just got back into listening to these. Very entertaining

I'm glad to see gremlins and dangers from the deep coming back in. I haven't played the 3d versions that much due to the lack of real danger, so it will be nice to have some excitement back in the game.

Gremlins were especially fun, I fondly remember one specific incident from the 2d version. I remember my elaborate 2d magma trap where one lever closed off the whole front section of hallway and the second pumped it full of magma. A gremlin snuck in and pulled the lava lever (which was completely unsafe before previously pulling the close-off lever). Before I got a dwarf to the lever to close it off my entire entry area was full of magma, my trade depot was burnt up (including the poor dwarven caravan for that year), and half a dozen dwarves were killed. I had to close off the magma gate and quickly raise the emergency bridges to seal off the magma to keep it from the rest of the fort. Even after securing the fort, the wave of magma poured out and burnt up every living thing outside the fort (including a herd of elephants and a few poor dwarves who were out gathering wood).

[SirPenguin]

Is that music that plays for these available separately at all? They're so relaxing

[Footkerchief]

Is that music that plays for these available separately at all? They're so relaxing

I really liked the more lively bit that plays around 41:20.

[Rainseeker]

Is that music that plays for these available separately at all? They're so relaxing

It depends on Ollieh.  Ask him, he may be willing to share!

[eerr]

Also, shrimp exist as vermin? I've never seen those around.

Yeah, that was the part I forgot to ask.  It's possible that shrimp are just a hardcoded template in the generator, I guess.

Only in legends, just like wizards.

except now that toady is making giant mutant shrimp populate the underworld.

[James.Denholm]

Also, shrimp exist as vermin? I've never seen those around.

Yeah, that was the part I forgot to ask.  It's possible that shrimp are just a hardcoded template in the generator, I guess.

Only in legends, just like wizards.

except now that toady is making giant mutant shrimp populate the underworld.

An easy explanation to this legends-only shrimpness:

146 - The human Forrest Gump has founded Bubba Gump Shrimp Co.!
147 - Shrimps are now extinct.

[G-Flex]

Did I hear Toady imply that there would be randomly generated clowns? I am so excited for this.

It's not really "implied". He specifically mentioned it in the spoiler dev_now update adventure thingy a while back, and explained it a back.

Here's the content of it:

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The chest opens! Inside you find a stone tablet...

YOU HAVE UNCOVERED THE SECRET OF THE FORGOTTEN BEASTS. We have been talking for a long time about randomizing creatures without actually having done anything, and in fact we had ended up adding more moddability and stock creatures instead. But we always wanted to get some of the randomized creatures in, and now with the new creature bodies, it seemed like a good time to try it out.

This means that part of the hidden fun stuff for next time will be to have some new random mega-beast style creatures that live down in the new world-spanning caverns. They are built up from a long list of template creatures and more general forms, and then all sorts of abilities are assigned to them. Sphere links should give them passable names (as passable as the god names are, anyway), and over time, though not too much for this release, the spheres associated to them will also determine many of their abilities and other features.

When one arrives, it will give you an appearance overview paragraph that should make it fairly clear what you are facing -- part of the problem with randomized creatures and other random game elements is that they can turn everything into a sort of cookie-cutter slush if they are not integrated into the world carefully (see region names, for example, which will not be good until we have sphere links there). By starting sparingly with large unique beasts that are rarely seen, we are hoping to iron out some of the issues before we start to use them more broadly.

[smjjames]

Also, shrimp exist as vermin? I've never seen those around.

Yeah, that was the part I forgot to ask.  It's possible that shrimp are just a hardcoded template in the generator, I guess.

Only in legends, just like wizards.

except now that toady is making giant mutant shrimp populate the underworld.

An easy explanation to this legends-only shrimpness:

146 - The human Forrest Gump has founded Bubba Gump Shrimp Co.!
147 - Shrimps are now extinct.

I'd like to see proof of this though.

[HammerHand]

Oh, my.  All this new underground terrain is going to completely change the way I build and design a fortress.  No longer can I count on using the bottom level as a complex, sanctified catacomb.  No longer can I ensure all my dwarves' bedrooms are deep in solid stone.  No longer can I rest assured that my vast crafting halls and their related in/out stockpiles will have the freedom to accommodate three z-levels for minimal walking distance.

... This is going to be awesome.  After a while, all my fortresses were starting to look the same after two or three z-levels down.  Now they'll all have to be unique, and deal with their own architectural problems.

I cannot express how much I am looking forward to this.

[ArkDelgato]

It is going to be amazing to breach an underground lake filled with

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horses that have fourteen wings that breath moonbeams,

only to be victorious and drain the lake into a large dining room.

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Engraved with Likost Baladur slaying the legionnaire of the horse flies, of course.

[mallocks]

mallocks cancels job: interrupted by illness

Apologies folk but there is no reasonable way I can get this done by the promised date (Monday) in my current state. 'Cancel' is an exaggeration but it is on hold for the time being, however I will still do my best to bring it out before too long; but after this time I don't want to set a precise date only to let people down again.