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Quietust

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Burning Booze?
« on: September 28, 2009, 11:18:54 am »

There are tales of booze being highly flammable, such that in older versions it could be set on fire and inflict Massive Damage against both dwarves and goblins alike. In the current version, it has been observed that booze bombs are no longer effective.

Wanting a better explanation for what was going on, I embarked with some booze and placed it in a stockpile, then used dtil to set the world on fire. When the fire reached the booze, a red-orange cloud appeared over the barrels which, upon closer examination, was boiling booze over now-empty barrels.

Is booze actually flammable in 40d, or does it simply boil away when exposed to fire?
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Re: Burning Booze?
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2009, 11:40:23 am »

It boils. People just tend to look at the booze clouds and think "holy crap, my booze just exploded."
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Re: Burning Booze?
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2009, 05:46:28 pm »

Another post in some other thread gave me the impression that this boiling booze won't actually cause damage.  I know steam no longer does but it seems like boiling alcohol would.
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Re: Burning Booze?
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2009, 06:37:32 pm »

Either way it's a damn waste of good alcohol.
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Re: Burning Booze?
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2009, 06:46:10 pm »

I tried experimenting awhile ago, and couldn't get anything but inconclusive results.  Problem is, if you pump magma directly onto a tile with a booze barrel on it, the barrel just vanishes.  Same for if you dump a booze barrel onto a tile with 1/7 magma.  Apparently, you have to have the barrel either catch on fire, like on a burning tree, or have magma flow along the floor to it.  And then you can't tell if the damage is from the fire/magma, or the boiling booze.
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Re: Burning Booze?
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2009, 07:03:29 pm »

Firesnakes and such are the usual cause of boozesplosions since they tend to light the barrels on fire rather than destroy them like magma.
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Re: Burning Booze?
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2009, 04:48:30 am »

as i remember booze, molten stones and other liquids can't burn, but can boil and cause damage. I used this to create repeatedfire - stone that autoignite, burn, melt, cooled to transform back in stone and again autoignite. 
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=1280-this mod contain some boiling things, like burning mushrums and unstable metal for burning cage-traps
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Re: Burning Booze?
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2009, 01:30:53 am »

Either way it's a damn waste of good alcohol.

So use prickle berry wine, gutter cruor, swamp whiskey, and sewer brew. That way, it's a waste of bad alcohol.
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Re: Burning Booze?
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2009, 02:26:29 am »

It is not a waste if you have a dwarven fuck ton left, and you are vanquishing the army of your rival civ's army.

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Re: Burning Booze?
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2009, 03:04:09 am »

If only war would stop so that dwarves and their enemies could have a massive booze party in the statue garden and work no more, even inviting a giant cave spider that was running around, then slaughter them all while they're drunk and the dwarves and on a high ready to work.
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Re: Burning Booze?
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2009, 11:29:40 pm »

Booze bombs have never been real.

The booze boils (like you noticed) and creates a red mist cloud of evaporated booze. Heat from the burning wooden barrel (stand next to a burning tree in adventure mode for a while sometime) causes damage to creatures. Unobservant people think OMG BOOZESPOSION!!!!! and people on the forum who want to believe propagate the myth.

I tested it and the same effect (minus the red booze cloud of course) was obtained with burning empty barrels, and even just plain old burning logs. It's the heat from the fire (and dwarven stupidity/lack of self preservation) that causes damage, not the booze cloud.

so just drop plain old flaming logs and you're not wasting any alcohol - good or bad.
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