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Author Topic: Christmas Mafia: End - final gift  (Read 56878 times)

webadict

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Re: Christmas Mafia: End - final gift
« Reply #555 on: January 17, 2010, 10:26:58 am »

Hey, Meph - why didn't you kill Zai and then Sonearage on the following night?  It would have at least given us some doubt as to who the SK was, although I think we'd probably still lynch you.

Also - did you really get a Vigilante present AND the SK kill?
No, he got the SK kill only.
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dakarian

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Re: Christmas Mafia: End - final gift
« Reply #556 on: January 17, 2010, 11:18:49 am »

No.  He DID get Vig and the SK kill.  He just wasn't allowed to use both at the same time, making it all moot.

sidenote: Web got to see Meph get his present, so he got to see the Vig gift, but not the SK effect.

Both him and I found it very interesting when the randomizer (and I SWEAR I do randomize these things) gave him the wish to be a Vig.  It was even more tripped up when he sent letters to santa and the grinch AND was the only one to receive a real role from Santa.

Note, the Vig role would've only been useful if he rolled up town.  It made for a nice balance.  Still, I wish I  had designed the SK aspect to be harder to spot.
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Re: Christmas Mafia: End - final gift
« Reply #557 on: January 17, 2010, 12:59:34 pm »

So nobody really got a true present. >,>
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Re: Christmas Mafia: End - final gift
« Reply #558 on: January 17, 2010, 01:23:02 pm »

Don't blame me.  You gave half the town coal. :P

Though it was interesting that you deemed Webadict and Leafsnail 'nice'.  Leafsnail was the one to kill Webadict, ending the scum threat, and webadict blocked Meph, thus keeping Night 3 1-kill only.
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Re: Christmas Mafia: End - final gift
« Reply #559 on: January 17, 2010, 01:41:52 pm »

So I didn't waste my kill :D.

Vig would've been really useful if Meph became a grinch-ally.
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Re: Christmas Mafia: End - final gift
« Reply #560 on: January 17, 2010, 01:53:28 pm »

But he can't go mafially AND get fullgift, as mafially is if you only hit grinches, and fullgift is only if you hit Santa.
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Re: Christmas Mafia: End - final gift
« Reply #561 on: January 17, 2010, 01:58:05 pm »

Oh yeah, true.

Well, survivor + vig could be interesting :P.
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Re: Christmas Mafia: End - final gift
« Reply #562 on: January 17, 2010, 02:02:34 pm »

also requires santa not get letter.
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Re: Christmas Mafia: End - final gift
« Reply #563 on: January 17, 2010, 02:06:40 pm »

Vig would only occur and be useful as a town-ally. 
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Re: Christmas Mafia: End - final gift
« Reply #564 on: January 17, 2010, 02:12:26 pm »

Hmm... just out of interest, Meph, what alignment were you aiming for?
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Re: Christmas Mafia: End - final gift
« Reply #565 on: January 17, 2010, 02:13:19 pm »

In truth that was a nice balance to him.  Survivors really don't need a full role and giving the scum a 3rd player WITH a full role would be too powerful.  SK really doesn't need a role but it would give a nice cover for them (assuming they don't get 'Vig" for their role :P). 
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Re: Christmas Mafia: End - final gift
« Reply #566 on: January 17, 2010, 02:13:57 pm »

4 ketters suggests sk
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Re: Christmas Mafia: End - final gift
« Reply #567 on: January 17, 2010, 02:17:39 pm »

Hey, Meph - why didn't you kill Zai and then Sonearage on the following night?  It would have at least given us some doubt as to who the SK was, although I think we'd probably still lynch you.

Also - did you really get a Vigilante present AND the SK kill?

Because there wasn't really a point. With the way the letters worked, the SK Could ONLY have been me or Org. And if I killed Zai I couldn't possibly have explained it away as a misguided suspicion, so I'd have been lynched before the end of the game for sure. I shouldn't have killed Sonearage, but I somehow missed that everyone actually accepted that she was the Helper and thus confirmed.

As for what I was hoping for...I wasn't sure, but I thought SK or Vig would be fun. Although if I'd thought about the system's implications more I'd have done two letters and gone for Survivor/Grinch Ally/Town. Those I might have been able to win.
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Re: Christmas Mafia: End - final gift
« Reply #568 on: January 17, 2010, 08:02:43 pm »

Meph: What if you'd have popped Santa then none'd the second night and claimed it was a Grinch-Ally with a 1-shot kill?
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Re: Christmas Mafia: End - final gift
« Reply #569 on: January 17, 2010, 08:05:31 pm »

Meph: What if you'd have popped Santa then none'd the second night and claimed it was a Grinch-Ally with a 1-shot kill?

I considered that, but I think I'd have been lynched before the end of the game anyway. I mean, a grinch-ally 1-shot wouldn't have a good reason to do that.
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