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[Tradanbattlan]

I have been battling depression for about a month or so. I've had occasional thoughts of suicide, along with others of self harm. These thoughts normally come with just a real down feeling. I feel this way when I reflect on all I have failed in life. I cant help reflecting, because something I do will make me think of it.

I am gonna see a doc sometime this week to get things sorted out, in terms of treatment. I could see a shrink, which would take away from my schooltime and thus give me more a reason to feel down. Or I could ask for Antidepressants, which are more dangerous but I wouldn't miss anything in school, and I'd be more enjoyable to be around. I'm completely torn right now. If any of you have some suggestions, that'd be great.
And please, this is a serious discussion. I won't tolerate any tomfoolery.

[Jude]

Go ahead and see doctors. How would we know what's best for you

/cue rabid argument over whether anti-depressants are good or horrible, conducted by people on both sides who know jack shit about anti-depressants other than anecdotes

[ChairmanPoo]

"more dangerous"?

Anyway, if you have depression (and for what you are saying you have a serious case, with the suicide thoughts and whatnot), you *ought* to get antidepressants. Your choice would be as to whether you want psychotherapy in top of that, or not.

[cowofdoom78963]

A pill wont make it go away forever.

You need to confront your depression and kill it.

Figuratively speaking of course.

[Hungry]

Just what have you failed in life at? I highly doubt you have failed as much as others and I dont think you have some of the problems other people have.

You should be happy. So be happy, or I'll find you...and make you happy, or maybe just make you lost, or maybe just found.

[Tradanbattlan]

Well, over the Summer, I found wild kittens living under a logpile in my backyard. My dogs did before me. I managed to save two of the three, but the third was...

I'd rather not say. I buried him in my front yard, using a shoebox as a coffin. This took me back to when my puppy, Runt, died of a stomach parasite. Just watching them die, and not having anything I can do about it really tore me up. As I was thinking about the two, I somehow brought up the topic of all my current and past failures. My grades being one of the biggest things. I dont know exactly how it escalated into thoughts of self harm, but now it's too late to do anything without help.

And I have a couple standpoints about the treatments.
Antidepressants - Dont have to talk to anyone to take a pill, but the pill also doesnt talk back. Makes me feel good for a while, but isnt permanent.

Counseler/Psychiatrist - Sure, I have to talk to them, which makes me a bit uncomfortable. But it's more for getting rid of it as a whole instead of moving it away temporarily.

[Hungry]

Firstly death is a natural thing, do not miss those that have passed, but enjoy the memories of time you have had with the desceased.

Secondly most of the time spent in life is being helpless in one way or another, acceptance of the fact is the only way past it.

Self harm is wrong. Thaughts about self harm are wrong.

Pills are dangerous and can cause permanent brain alterations.

Trust me I'm in the same boat as you, except I've been here longer, and I've weathered the waves before.

[cowofdoom78963]

Secondly most of the time spent in life is being helpless in one way or another, acceptance of the fact is the only way past it.

Convincing depressed people that they are helpless is very bad advice.

Considering that you are "in the same boat" as him is probably good enough reason not to give him advice on depression.

[ChairmanPoo]

A pill wont make it go away forever.

No, but several  pills over time have a pretty good chance. There are such  things as treatment protocols.

[Zironic]

You are only supposed to take antidepressants if your depression is unnatural. Going to a therapist helps you figure out if your brain is actually messed up or if you are naturally depressed a.k.a it will go away eventually.

[Hungry]

I've been in the "boat" for a while, I have to unfortunate luck to be in many a boat... boats that keep me out of the water.

I'm drifting...

Helplessness is a fact of life, and coming to terms with it is how you become numbed to its effects.

Numbed like me, but not like me cause only I'm like me, and you cant be me, cause I'm me... And I doubt your me.

Anyways, the whole point is I'm the experienced one here, so I must be right, or the world is totally wrong in some way we all can't quite see.

[cowofdoom78963]

Your only on the boat until you reach the shore.

And its alot better to have your feet on dry land. You dont have to worry about any waves smashing your boat to peices.

Cause you may be the best captain in the seven seas but one bad storm and you are screwed.

[Neonivek]

Well if you do chose to take Anti-depressants remember that your job while your on them is actually to work on the reasons why your depressed and try to change them, your perspective on them, or the way you cope with them.

If you don't you will be on them pretty much forever.

I've had Clinical depression once too and the first anti-depressants I had (which were experimental) had the unfortunate side effect of giving me rage. It took a while to convince everyone involved to stop talking about it.
-November-December this year I developed it again though it should be gone again... Though realistically I just think I am coping with it better rather then the reasons being gone. Since the reasons I am so down is because my sense of competency is shot (As well as some people giving me a hard time) and I havn't done anything lately to feel proud about even though I keep trying to do things for others (Who always politely refuse).

[x2yzh9]

Well, over the Summer, I found wild kittens living under a logpile in my backyard. My dogs did before me. I managed to save two of the three, but the third was...

I'd rather not say. I buried him in my front yard, using a shoebox as a coffin. This took me back to when my puppy, Runt, died of a stomach parasite. Just watching them die, and not having anything I can do about it really tore me up. As I was thinking about the two, I somehow brought up the topic of all my current and past failures. My grades being one of the biggest things. I dont know exactly how it escalated into thoughts of self harm, but now it's too late to do anything without help.

And I have a couple standpoints about the treatments.
Antidepressants - Dont have to talk to anyone to take a pill, but the pill also doesnt talk back. Makes me feel good for a while, but isnt permanent.

Counseler/Psychiatrist - Sure, I have to talk to them, which makes me a bit uncomfortable. But it's more for getting rid of it as a whole instead of moving it away temporarily.

I recommend both. Why? Because i've been in your exact situation before, no, it isn't the same, but i was very depressed a few years ago [something like 2 or 3] At first, i saw a psychiatrist. It may be uncomfortable at first, but once you get to know them, it won't be. As well, about 4-5 months ago i started taking antidepressants. It takes a while to kick in, but they're nice and they work.

Anyway, as a whole i recommend you see a psychiatrist first, and then once she has you figured out she'll help you from there.

[Hungry]

There is no shore for people like me just more boats, and you may not know it but your shore is made of wood whether you think it is or not, only you think its sand.

Do what you want, I dont care.