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DFAddict

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Cats and death
« on: January 17, 2010, 06:37:01 pm »

Hey I'm trying to breed up a large base of cats for meat and leather. I seem to have hit a population cap though. Is there a limit of many cats appear in the game at once? I think I have around 60-70 right now.
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moki

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Re: Cats and death
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2010, 07:20:54 pm »

If I remember correctly, I read somewhere of an animal limit of 50 per species. That is, you can have a maximum of 50 cats alive at any time (and 50 dogs, 50 one-humped camels, 50 two-humped camels, 50 grizzly bears and so on...)
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Re: Cats and death
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2010, 08:16:49 pm »

How do you solve the problem of the cats adopting dwarves?
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Re: Cats and death
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2010, 08:25:44 pm »

Animal pregnancies will stop once the population of a single species reaches a certain limit.  It seems like 50 from my experience.  That means you'll need to breed two or more species if you want more animals.

Also: cats are bad for breeding.  Aside from the whole adoption problem, they just don't yield that much in meat, bones, and fat.  Dogs are better, and you probably have those around anyway.  Camels and bears are much better for breeding, and the stacks of 40 camel bone bolts are fantastic.
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Re: Cats and death
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2010, 09:50:54 pm »

I can testify that elephants are great for breeding, if you can catch and tame at least one female.

(This is with Dig Deeper. I don't know if it changes the default elephant or not.)
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Re: Cats and death
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2010, 09:58:34 pm »

What about Unicorns? I have like 8 of them in my fort (chained in a certain building, not caged) and they aren't doing anything.

How do I get them to make baby unicorns?
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2010, 09:59:11 pm »

I can't remember. If I keep animals caged do they still reproduce via spores or whatever? I don't want all my animals running around, but I want them to breed.
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2010, 10:18:28 pm »

I can't remember. If I keep animals caged do they still reproduce via spores or whatever? I don't want all my animals running around, but I want them to breed.
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Re: Cats and death
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2010, 10:42:30 pm »

I can't remember. If I keep animals caged do they still reproduce via spores or whatever? I don't want all my animals running around, but I want them to breed.
If they were pregnant when they went in they'll give birth, but they won't get pregnant while in cages.
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2010, 11:15:18 pm »

Unicorns don't breed and can't be tamed, to my knowledge.
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2010, 11:19:00 pm »

Unicorns don't breed and can't be tamed, to my knowledge.

Not unless you mod them to breed and be tameable.
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Re: Cats and death
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2010, 11:55:18 pm »

Yeah, that's what I meant. I've given them [PET_EXOTIC], but I'm not sure what allows them to breed.
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2010, 11:57:42 pm »

Yeah, that's what I meant. I've given them [PET_EXOTIC], but I'm not sure what allows them to breed.

The [PET_EXOTIC] tag means that they won't breed (and can't be tamed onsite) until your Dungeon Master arrives.
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2010, 12:32:49 pm »

Yeah, that's what I meant. I've given them [PET_EXOTIC], but I'm not sure what allows them to breed.
What allows them to breed is rather simple, actually: [CHILD:[insert number here]] and optionally [BABY:[insert number here]]
Creatures must give birth to a baby or child. Those two tags indicate the age at which a child turns into an adult and a baby turns into a child respectively...so, if you've got [CHILD:2] and [BABY:1] then the mother will give birth to a baby which will become a child when it's one year old, then turn into an adult when it's two years old. In vanilla DF, the baby tag is virtually unused. Dwarves etc. have it, of course, but no animals have it. I don't know if it's possible for a mother to give birth if there's a baby tag but no child tag. If neither tag is present, the mother will never give birth.
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Re: Cats and death
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2010, 12:40:19 pm »

Talking of which, I looked at the raws once to see what makes carp so … carpy. I saw that they've got a "child" tag, but I never see them breed in the wild. Hippos, on the other hand, breed like mad; spawning "hippo has given birth to a hippo calf" messages all the time. What's the difference there?
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