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Glitch Fortress: Duplicate Raw Files [INTRO- IMAGES FIXED]
« on: January 19, 2010, 11:57:08 pm »

So, I was thinking about a fortress on a save with a buttload of duplicate RAW files, plus some mods.

Those of you who understand the above sentence can skip this paragraph. If you don't, let it be said simply that the code does not like it when there are copies of the RAW files- files with the easily-modified information on creatures, civilizations and items. While it isn't fully understood, duplicating the raw files (usually by accident when modding) has been know to cause cave crocodiles to live in houses, civilizations of elephants to form, camels to wear clothes, fluffy wamblers to pull wagons, wizards to exist, and demons to get raped by elves, to name a few.

Most of the chaos from raw duplicates is apparent in adventure mode, so we need good cause to believe that this will do much to a fortress- adventure LPs just aren't the same.

Anyway, who's interested, and do you think this will work? Whether it might be a community, succession or what is up in the air.
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Re: Glitch Fortress: Duplicate Raw Files [PROPOSAL]
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2010, 12:35:54 am »

It might work.
I've had lots of fun with raw dupes.
But be careful, because one time, I ended up with the stone being rainbow coloured and completely unusable. Couldn't even mine the stuff.
Also, if blank leather or cloth appears frequently on the embark screen, at least half of your dwarves (or whatever else they glitched out to being) to die from the leather boiling in a cloud of frozen evil.

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Re: Glitch Fortress: Duplicate Raw Files [PROPOSAL]
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2010, 12:56:33 am »

Sounds like fun! I'm in!

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I've experience a few duplicate raws in my time (especially what with forgetting to clear out my copy of dwarf fortress I have for testing), so I know you can get some rather weird effects.

I've seen humans with dragon fire breath, cave fish silk, elves with adamantine, more ' leather' than you can shake a stick at, stuff like that. So yes, weird stuff WILL happen, and it will be awesome. I propose you, say, make a few different copies of creature.txt files.
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Re: Glitch Fortress: Duplicate Raw Files [PROPOSAL]
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2010, 01:06:04 am »

Sounds like Fun, rather. That's the pull, of course.

Dunno if I'm in per-se, but I'll definitely be keeping my eye on this, and might join in a few turns down the road.

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Re: Glitch Fortress: Duplicate Raw Files [PROPOSAL]
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2010, 01:26:23 am »

Definitely favoriting this to watch it for updates.  Interesting idea, and nobody knows what to expect!

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Re: Glitch Fortress: Duplicate Raw Files [PROPOSAL]
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2010, 01:30:46 am »

I say, start it off as a community. Get an embark, grab some items, then post what you get for your initial 7 here for people to choose. This will also let you know if it's even possible to start with.
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Re: Glitch Fortress: Duplicate Raw Files [PROPOSAL]
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2010, 10:55:48 pm »

Okay. I'll set up an unnavigable labyrinth of duplicated and new files. Tomorrow or Friday, probably.
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Re: Glitch Fortress: Duplicate Raw Files [PROPOSAL]
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2010, 10:58:55 pm »

I would totally join this. +1 If you have us be a different race by accident.
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Re: Glitch Fortress: Duplicate Raw Files [PROPOSAL]
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2010, 12:22:58 am »

I would totally join this. +1 If you have us be a different race by accident.
I've seen a purring maggot fortress and a wizard fortress. =3
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Re: Glitch Fortress: Duplicate Raw Files [PROPOSAL]
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2010, 12:40:12 am »

This sounds cool.

I'm definitely going to be watchign this topic.

I MIGHT hop in for a turn later.

I second the start as a community fort.

If it is succession right away, please make it a community fort too anyway.

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Re: Glitch Fortress: Duplicate Raw Files [PROPOSAL]
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2010, 02:37:26 am »

I just tried duplicating creatures in 5 - 6 different files.
The civs was replaced by ratmen, gremlins, lizardmen and other such-suchs. This was 40d.
The megabeasts included blizzardmen and mermen, although subsequent tests indicates megabeasts are the first things to go wrong.

I couldn't check out further info in legends mode, and attempting to embark in fortress mode both resulted in crashes.
Editing the RAWs to a point of balance between fuck-uppery and not making the game crash are going to be hard.

EDIT: Yes, when speaking about duplicating RAWs fuck-uppery is a verb.
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Re: Glitch Fortress: Duplicate Raw Files [PROPOSAL]
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2010, 10:28:45 pm »

I'll claim a whatever if it's a community fort.  Whatever race you get, I'd like a Clothesmaker.  Preferably one with Weaving, but if you don't roll that way it's cool.  Name him/her/it/green glass chair Cal, and give the character some amusing quirk that will be hilariously annoying to its coworkers.

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Re: Glitch Fortress: Duplicate Raw Files [PROPOSAL]
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2010, 04:41:13 pm »

If it's a community fort, I'd like an engraver/mason (or glassmaker if there's sand)
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Re: Glitch Fortress: Duplicate Raw Files [PROPOSAL]
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2010, 05:07:03 pm »

Spartan, carpenter/woodcutter/axedwarf.

Or axeman. Or axecarp. Or axecat. Or-
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Re: Glitch Fortress: Duplicate Raw Files [PROPOSAL]
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2010, 11:38:54 pm »

Growerfoo, I guess. The second skill is up to you.
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