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Re: Dwarf fortress computer (physical computer to run DF)
« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2010, 10:26:09 pm »

I would think it would take you centuries.
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Re: Dwarf fortress computer (physical computer to run DF)
« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2010, 08:06:20 am »

I would think it would take you centuries.

Only because DF has currently too much micromanagement.
Automization would significantly reduce that time.
So the dwarves would dig, build, construct and plan all the components of their giant computer.

This, in turn, would bring us back to the OP.
The amount of FPS would determine the speed the Dwarven Mirror Problem can be solved.
How do we optimize our PCs as much as possible?
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Re: Dwarf fortress computer (physical computer to run DF)
« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2010, 09:37:36 am »

....You're going to build a universe in order to simulate itself? You've become a Deep Thought. You'd better make sure it keeps outputting "42."

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Re: Dwarf fortress computer (physical computer to run DF)
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2010, 09:41:31 am »

My suggestion would be to build a PPC emulator in it. Those should be relatively simple, at least compared to somehing like x86.

Then you can use an off-the-shelf x86-on-PPC emulator, run windows on it, and run DF on that.

And then, sometime in the 40th century, the dwarves in that simulated computer can try doing it again.
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Re: Dwarf fortress computer (physical computer to run DF)
« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2010, 11:16:09 am »

Break into one of those climate-monitoring centres and use one of their great big super-computers.
200,000 dwarf fort time.
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Re: Dwarf fortress computer (physical computer to run DF)
« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2010, 01:34:10 pm »

Super computers are only so good because they have hundreds of thousands of processors. Not quite optimal for DF.

Although, server processors have superior quality control, and thereby seem to overclock nicely. (something like 4.2 GHZ per core) They are also very effecient for their clock rate.
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Re: Dwarf fortress computer (physical computer to run DF)
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2010, 12:01:58 am »

Actualy, snails can crawl on top of eachother, The snail on the top will have it's own speed relative the one below, making it's total speed duble, so if you piled all 1000 snails in a tower...
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Re: Dwarf fortress computer (physical computer to run DF)
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2010, 04:48:39 am »

Has someone alredy tryed to see if having more core virtualizing a computer with only one and fast core could run DF faster or not?
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Re: Dwarf fortress computer (physical computer to run DF)
« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2010, 06:30:21 am »

Computers do not work that way. Sorry, no free lunch.
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Re: Dwarf fortress computer (physical computer to run DF)
« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2010, 10:29:09 pm »

When I was 4, I thought you could break the speed of light by doing that, except with trucks instead.
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Re: Dwarf fortress computer (physical computer to run DF)
« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2010, 10:37:03 pm »

Hmmm, why can't you?

So if you're on a ship moving at 99.99999999999999999999% lightspeed (say, one inch per year from lightspeed), and you try to walk along the ship, you won't be able to and you'll just be frozen in place?
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« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2010, 11:36:42 pm »

Hmmm, why can't you?

So if you're on a ship moving at 99.99999999999999999999% lightspeed (say, one inch per year from lightspeed), and you try to walk along the ship, you won't be able to and you'll just be frozen in place?

Yep. Because the closer you go towards the speed of light, the slower time goes for you. At the speed of light, time stands still. On a vaguely related note, you technically shouldn't be able to hear sounds on a supersonic aeroplane, but since the air in the cabin is moving at the same speed as you, you can hear just fine. That took me 'till I was about 16 to figure out.
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Re: Dwarf fortress computer (physical computer to run DF)
« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2010, 05:28:09 pm »

Hmmm, why can't you?

So if you're on a ship moving at 99.99999999999999999999% lightspeed (say, one inch per year from lightspeed), and you try to walk along the ship, you won't be able to and you'll just be frozen in place?

To expand on what Lancensis said, you will be able to move. But to a super-sensitive detection device (nobody would see you, considering you just darted away at 99.99% lightspeed), you will be moving very slowly in relation to the ship. If you could slow everything down, so the ship was moving like, 60 miles an hour, your walking self would be moving .000001 miles an hour (made up numbers but you get the point hopefully?). Very very slow. Time dilation would make you look like you were going in slow motion. Just as things moving closer to the speed of light experience less time and therefore age slower, they also move slower.
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Re: Dwarf fortress computer (physical computer to run DF)
« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2010, 05:36:22 pm »

But nonetheless, if a detection device could track your speed from Earth, you would be moving 99.999999999999999% lightspeed plus a bit - you would be moving faster than lightspeed, correct?
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Re: Dwarf fortress computer (physical computer to run DF)
« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2010, 05:39:54 pm »

ignore, sry.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2010, 06:16:37 pm by xoen »
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