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Re: The True Dwarven Insanity
« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2010, 02:57:33 am »

Of course you did.
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Re: The True Dwarven Insanity
« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2010, 06:34:10 am »

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Re: The True Dwarven Insanity
« Reply #32 on: March 07, 2010, 09:10:22 am »

I don't want it to seem like our only job as their unseen commanders is to torture them. Even when providing for them the dorfs have got to wonder and be quite scared of the idea of a nigh-omnipotent figure telling them what to do.

I say "nigh-omnipotent" cause I still can't get them to not lemming rush the doors when ever one of them dies outside to some force waiting to kill them all. A true god shouldn't have to lock the doors.
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Re: The True Dwarven Insanity
« Reply #33 on: March 07, 2010, 11:45:55 am »

Yes they are a bunch of drunken unstable retards, but they're MY drunken unstable retards, and I will take care of them.

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Re: The True Dwarven Insanity
« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2010, 12:07:09 pm »

The way I see it, the dwarfs live so drunk they don't really care. For some reason, your mason just "Get's the feeling" to build a wall in the spot you designated, and he's got nothin' better to do. So he does it. And when he see's his friend run out into the middle of the Ballista fire to go grab that -pig tail sock-. They head on over to the Legendary dining room, grabs some booze, and sit's there in disbelief at the platinum statues, and the masterwork engravings of delicious Dwarven cheese, and forget's all his troubles. Then he get's another feelin' and goes back to finish that wall.

That said,i play a pretty benevolent deity. I so far haven't made any real mega-projects, though. So there's been little reason to sacrifice my people. However, Recently I've been playing with small population forts (25-35) so a lost dwarf is a pretty big deal.

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Re: The True Dwarven Insanity
« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2010, 12:56:12 pm »

Honestly, I tend to percieve the problem as simply something wrong with the way that "happiness" is labeled. 

Consider it something like a "Suicide" meter or a "Sanity" meter, and it makes a little more sense.

For example, Urist's children were just eaten by a ravenous skeletal monstrosity from the briney deep!  His sanity takes a hit!  He wonders how anything good or worthwhile can be achieved in a world where what is most precious to him can be snatched away at any moment without warning, and what point there is in living in a tiny cave apartment, hiding like rats in a hole, if that hole isn't even safe... but then he has a REALLY strong drink that blasts those worries away, and stares up at the statue of Nil McHammerlord, who single-handedly slew 27 orcs ten years ago, before dying from a tantrum spiral, and remembers that, while life is transient, the accomplishments of the dwarves will forever be recorded in the stones.  Then he smells miasma, the stench of death bringing back the memories of his parents being eaten by elves right before his eyes before he immigrated to your fortress, and finally snaps.
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Re: The True Dwarven Insanity
« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2010, 02:33:27 pm »

I wholeheartedly agree with this interpretation. The whole reason dwarves [NEED_BOOZE] is that they know the truth deep down. They drink to forget that they are puppets.

That being said, I come to DF after a long history of playing games to create empires or raise creatures, so I tend to be extremely protective and benevolent as far as Armok's incarnations go. Not terribly in character, I suppose.
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Re: The True Dwarven Insanity
« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2010, 03:29:23 pm »

I like my retarded dwarves too.  I always feel bad when they die.  Kind of.  I like trying to keep them well-fed and drunk, considering their inevitable fate.  I gotta do more statues.  I always forget to do those.
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« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2010, 07:23:14 pm »

I like to wait for legendary masons before churning out the statues, just to make sure the subject matter is done justice.
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Re: The True Dwarven Insanity
« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2010, 02:07:16 am »

I like this description. It's Dorfy and Fun at the same time!  :D
I always look after my dwarves. They get good food, drink, defense, beds, tables, structures, and stuff. Of course, sometimes there might be sacrifices, but only for a good reason and not past what people historically did. For example, if someone likes elven retreats (I know, it's hideous, but...), they might be sacrificed to the orcish hordes.
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Re: The True Dwarven Insanity
« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2010, 12:21:58 pm »

I don't want it to seem like our only job as their unseen commanders is to torture them. Even when providing for them the dorfs have got to wonder and be quite scared of the idea of a nigh-omnipotent figure telling them what to do.

I say "nigh-omnipotent" cause I still can't them to not lemming rush the doors when ever one of them dies outside to some force waiting to kill them all. A true god shouldn't have to lock the doors.

Tried setting "Forbid own death items" in the orders menu? Might want to Forbid corpses too. No door locking required. Also adequately clothing them helps, they're rushing out to claim the now free clothing since their own is probably in tatters.

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Re: The True Dwarven Insanity
« Reply #41 on: May 12, 2010, 03:17:30 pm »

Hnn... so that's why I don't have the MUST HAVE SOCKS...
these dwarves... are not unlike me with their need for good socks...
It makes sense why I treat them well and make sure they have enough clothing now.
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Re: The True Dwarven Insanity
« Reply #42 on: May 12, 2010, 03:29:04 pm »

Pfft, the True Dwarven Insanity is people actually questioning Cog for murdering Urist to make his snazzy new loincloth.

Some Dwarves just aren't right in the head.
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Re: The True Dwarven Insanity
« Reply #43 on: May 12, 2010, 03:34:39 pm »

I swear, I am going to build a time machine and punch Lovecraft the moment he's born.
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Re: The True Dwarven Insanity
« Reply #44 on: May 12, 2010, 04:22:08 pm »

I swear, I am going to build a time machine and punch Lovecraft the moment he's born.
Considering what kind of a man he was...I wouldn't mind.
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