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[Random_Dragon]

So, started a goblin lasher adventurer in the same dark fortress as last time, intending to maybe join the army marching on a hillock, maybe upstage the dwarf replacing the lord my last guy knocked off...

Halp, leaving home takes forever. ;w;

[DF_Silvestre]

The only thing I actively hate in this game mode is the friendly fire incidents. I was on a mission to execute a pack of bandits, and while getting ready to cross a river, we stumble into a herd of hippos. So naturally I attack them. Which ends in a total implosion of My army as everyone decides to kill each other in an impromptu brawl with weapons. People were losing hands, lives, legs, whatever. Eventually I got fed up and waded into the fray to bust heads open for the experience. And then came up to our spearman. And lost the ability to stand. Cue savescum and skipping the hippo slaying spree.

I've already completed and turned in the quest, just annoyed about that whole event and glad I can savescum.

How'd that happen? I've seen them go into tantrums, but never attack each other for no apparent reason.

[Urist McVoyager]

So, started a goblin lasher adventurer in the same dark fortress as last time, intending to maybe join the army marching on a hillock, maybe upstage the dwarf replacing the lord my last guy knocked off...

Halp, leaving home takes forever. ;w;

Don't play goblins then. 

How'd that happen? I've seen them go into tantrums, but never attack each other for no apparent reason.

I don't know how it happens but it's not my first time seeing people go berzerk for no reason. In my other file as Ithev Girderscribe my people would routinely sheathe their weapons and brawl in the open with no alcohol involved. And when a friendly "siege" occurred that could be disarmed by mere speech, they went and killed a few people anyway. Even after I'd recruited the newbies as hearth people.

It's to the point where I either savescum often, avoid attacking wildlife, or my next campaign starts in fortress mode making a human town, and switches to adventure mode when I have some decently trained, fully armed and armored warriors to recruit.

[Max™]

"Soandso rules Thistown, not that it matters as the seat of Aso Somethingorother is here, and the blood-drinker will allow no chattel to rise."
'Huh, I wonder how obvious this dude is?'
*walks to the keep*
'Tell me about your family, Mr. Totally-not-an-obvious-vampire.'

'So your younger brother died of old age 221 years ago?'
"Yup."
'...don't think that sounds a little suspicious?'
"Not really, but out of the more than one hundred and twenty or so years I spent working various jobs, not a one of them involved critical thinking, so what would I know?"

[Random_Dragon]

Don't play goblins then. 

But I wanted to, it's fun being evil. 3:

'So your younger brother died of old age 221 years ago?'

I get the feeling that any vampire ballsy enough to become a civ leader (thus requiring them to eventually give up their authority to fuck off when the citizenry become suspicious) has reached the point where they're done giving a fuck.

EDIT: I rolled into the hillocks under cover of night, finding no sign of invaders. So I wiped the fuckers out. On my way back up, deciding to check out the dark pit the army is supposed to be marching from, I'm attacked by what I assume to be bandits.

EDIT 2: Made it to the dark pit that's in charge of the invasion. Good, they aren't hostile to me, and I got a pair of companions that are actually following me around properly. Time to visit the local lord and see about getting some action, since that miserable dwarf actually ISN'T the one directing the invasion.

EDIT 3: Only had to tell them about a single dorf I killed to get him to let me join. First mission is to...assassinate a surfaced animal-person, probably a chieftain. Seriously?

EDIT 4: Nope. It's an administrator for a conquered village, with signs of being fortified by goblins. Oddly, the admin went no-quarter on sight, while the civilians are ignoring me. Gonna hope that giving the oppressed masses a "change in leadership" doesn't piss off my comrades.

EDIT 5: My fellow goblins are fine with it. Funny, the villagers standing around just stood there and watched.

[jumboji]

searching for artifact weapons ! but sometimes i wish u could commission black smithes or clothiers to make certain clothes and weapons with details you input , that would be sweet!

[Random_Dragon]

I swear, what is WITH these twats ordering me to kill subterranean animal people? What token on the part of animal-people is to blame here? -w-

EDIT: Sent after another olm man administrator, in the town next to the ruins. This time one of the peasants was brave enough to fight back. Guess they actually like this particular puppet of the demon king.

[Urist McVoyager]

searching for artifact weapons ! but sometimes i wish u could commission black smithes or clothiers to make certain clothes and weapons with details you input , that would be sweet!

You can't in adventure mode because Adventure mode doesn't seem to have any production going on whatsoever.

Unless you're playing an oddly sized animal person, however, you CAN do just that by building a fortress capable of supporting a working smithy in Fortress mode. Which is easy as Hell and can be done in the first year as long as your site has the resources for it.

[Random_Dragon]

Yeeeeaaah, 16 instruments is too many, especially if 4 are uncraftable and they're mixed with generated ones. I'm halving it, along with some other changes.

EDIT: Ported over some of my changes to my latest adventure, so the local goblin lord stopped being racist against native animal-people chieftains.

EDIT 2: ...oh. So, the two hamlets where I fucked shit up earlier? One was blue as if it was ruined, and indeed the local lord said it was destroyed by a beast early in history. But after I assassinated the goblin-placed administrator of the OTHER hamlet? It's also turned blue, it was white like normal hamlets when I first went there! D:

[Urist McVoyager]

You killed the boss and everyone up and ran. Tsk tsk. This is why being evil doesn't pay.

For me it's all about being a badass, and sadly, the evil creatures are far more badass to kill than the good ones. Sooooo . . . I ain't raiding hamlets and towns. I'm attacking dragons and titans.

Although right now it's more like ambushing bandits in their own camps as they sleep. If it ups my reputation and lets me lead more warriors when I do kill the real monsters, I'll take it for a while.

[Random_Dragon]

But being evil is Fun. D:

I fixed that weirdness though, so now my goblin lord is ordering me to hunt real monsters.

[Urist McVoyager]

Being powerful is fun. Being evil isn't anything in this game yet. It's a buggy, laggy mess where people don't react as harshly as they could. When there's something real to disrupt and you actually get the interaction ability to make being evil pay, THEN it'll be fun. For now it's about figuring out which side has the most people to kill and the harshest creatures to come up against, and that's the immoral/evil side my friend. For me, anyway, We probably have different definitions of fun. Mine doesn't involve causing innocent people to cry when I can't enslave and force them to work for me yet.

ETA: Though necromancy can fake it pretty well for what we get. There isn't enough in the game in my eyes for that yet.

[TheFlame52]

Being evil was fun in 0.34 when you could get an entire market pissed at you with a single attack. No cowards back then.

[Random_Dragon]

Being powerful is fun. Being evil isn't anything in this game yet. It's a buggy, laggy mess where people don't react as harshly as they could. When there's something real to disrupt and you actually get the interaction ability to make being evil pay, THEN it'll be fun. For now it's about figuring out which side has the most people to kill and the harshest creatures to come up against, and that's the immoral/evil side my friend. For me, anyway, We probably have different definitions of fun. Mine doesn't involve causing innocent people to cry when I can't enslave and force them to work for me yet.

ETA: Though necromancy can fake it pretty well for what we get. There isn't enough in the game in my eyes for that yet.

Drinking blood in public, turning into a werebeast in public, bringing a posse of hostiles (like undead) with you, simply BEING a husk/thrall...

However, giving humans and other creatures you want to react properly natural discipline will help. I don't yet know whether it'll make them more likely to actually react to hostility going on around them, but it will at least make them more inclined to fight when they DO.

Actually...I have an idea. Humans, dwarves and such have the [BENIGN] token. What happens if you remove that?

Also, I've had hearthpeople from a human hamlet go no-quarter on me extremely quickly after I offered to serve a local chieftain they were at war with. They started with just spitting on me until provoked further though. :V

[pikachu17]

Unless you're playing an oddly sized animal person, however, you CAN do just that by building a fortress capable of supporting a working smithy in Fortress mode. Which is easy as Hell and can be done in the first year as long as your site has the resources for it.

Actually, Now a days you can choose to make armor for animal men, just press 'd' for details, and select the creature.