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[Pathos]

Remember, people, kobbs can only dig through soil!

This is true! They only HAVE shovels.

Huh and I thought I'd have to wait longer, I'll update my Langauge thing in a bit.  I wonder if he added more symbols and words though.

-ponders-

EDIT:   Oh also, since we now have custom workshops and custom "other" reactions think we can see the return of the leather beds?
It looks like you could even set it to use/train the "Leatherworking" skill.

I saw that was already though of, I'm screwing around with reactions right now to see if I can make the bed and bed workshop.

The only trouble is that no language is as awesome as the kobolds random syllables.

Also, good initiative! We need more people like you and roqi.

My biggest beef with it is that it is impossible to build so many workshops, because the kobolds lack SO MANY skills. I mean seriously, they don't even have masonry?

To be fair, that's the point. If you're digging into rock, you're doing something wrong.

[Kaelem Gaen]

Yeah the Language thing is a personal flavor choice, I envision them as a tribal people, tribes have language and all that fun stuff.

Eitherway, that's just my play style. 

Right now I'm trying to create a world for Kobold Camp, but I keep getting rejects one that crops up alot is

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The Windy Universe, region1: No controllable entity definitions available'

There we go, had to up the cave count.

[Squeegy]

My biggest beef with it is that it is impossible to build so many workshops, because the kobolds lack SO MANY skills. I mean seriously, they don't even have masonry?

all wood, baby

They can't dig into stone.

[Kaelem Gaen]

Well I abandoned the reaction/workshop for now, trying out Nobles since it looks like you just C&P and edit to fit society....

Here's what I have assuming it works

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    [POSITION:CHIEFTAN]
        [NAME:chieftan:chieftans]
        [NUMBER:1]
        [SPOUSE_MALE:tribe father:tribe fathers]
        [SPOUSE_FEMALE:tribe mother:tribe mothers]
        [SUCCESSION:BY_HEIR]
        [RESPONSIBILITY:LAW_MAKING]
        [RESPONSIBILITY:RECEIVE_DIPLOMATS]
        [RESPONSIBILITY:MILITARY_GOALS]
        [PRECEDENCE:1]
        [RULES_FROM_LOCATION]
        [MENIAL_WORK_EXEMPTION]
        [MENIAL_WORK_EXEMPTION_SPOUSE]
        [PUNISHMENT_EXEMPTION]
        [FLASHES]
        [BRAG_ON_KILL]
        [CHAT_WORTHY]
        [DO_NOT_CULL]
        [KILL_QUEST]
        [EXPORTED_IN_LEGENDS]
        [DETERMINES_COIN_DESIGN]
        [COLOR:5:0:1]
        [ACCOUNT_EXEMPT]
        [DUTY_BOUND]
        [REQUIRED_BOXES:3]
        [REQUIRED_CABINETS:3]
        [REQUIRED_RACKS:2]
        [REQUIRED_STANDS:2]
        [REQUIRED_OFFICE:1500]
        [REQUIRED_BEDROOM:1500]
        [REQUIRED_DINING:1500]
        [REQUIRED_TOMB:500]
    [POSITION:HEAD_KOBOLD]
        [NAME:head kobold:head kobolds]
        [SITE]
        [NUMBER:1]
        [REPLACED_BY:VILLAGE_CHIEF]
        [RULES_FROM_LOCATION]
        [RESPONSIBILITY:MEET_WORKERS]
        [RESPONSIBILITY:RECEIVE_DIPLOMATS]
        [RESPONSIBILITY:MILITARY_GOALS]
        [PRECEDENCE:110]
        [DO_NOT_CULL]
        [ACCOUNT_EXEMPT]
        [DUTY_BOUND]
    [POSITION:VILLAGE_CHIEF]
        [NAME:village chief:village chiefs]
        [SITE]
        [NUMBER:1]
        [RESPONSIBILITY:MEET_WORKERS]
        [RESPONSIBILITY:RECEIVE_DIPLOMATS]
        [RESPONSIBILITY:MILITARY_GOALS]
        [REQUIRES_POPULATION:50]
        [RULES_FROM_LOCATION]
        [SUCCESSION:BY_HEIR]
        [PRECEDENCE:60]
        [FLASHES]
        [BRAG_ON_KILL]
        [CHAT_WORTHY]
        [DO_NOT_CULL]
        [KILL_QUEST]
        [COLOR:5:0:0]
        [ACCOUNT_EXEMPT]
        [DUTY_BOUND]
        [REQUIRED_BOXES:2]
        [REQUIRED_CABINETS:1]
        [REQUIRED_RACKS:1]
        [REQUIRED_STANDS:1]
        [REQUIRED_OFFICE:500]
        [REQUIRED_BEDROOM:500]
        [REQUIRED_DINING:500]
    [POSITION:WITCH_DOCTOR]
        [NAME:Witch Doctor:Witch Doctors]
        [SITE]
        [NUMBER:1]
        [RESPONSIBILITY:HEALTH_MANAGEMENT]
        [APPOINTED_BY:HEAD_KOBOLD]
        [APPOINTED_BY:VILLAGE_CHIEF]
        [PRECEDENCE:165]
        [DO_NOT_CULL]
        [COLOR:5:0:0]
        [DUTY_BOUND]


Now to test, at least the early guys.

[magikarcher]

When you say they can't dig into stone, I hope you mean that I must use the honor system and not dig into stone. I was more than capable to dig stone, ore, gems, etc.

[Kaelem Gaen]

Generally the no-stone digging is a self-imposed rule.

[Bishop36]

The old kobold camp used to be all I played, probably going to be the same for this one. I have a full set of kobold graphics if anyone is interested.

[roqi]

Huh and I thought I'd have to wait longer, I'll update my Langauge thing in a bit.  I wonder if he added more symbols and words though.

-ponders-

EDIT:   Oh also, since we now have custom workshops and custom "other" reactions think we can see the return of the leather beds?
It looks like you could even set it to use/train the "Leatherworking" skill.

I saw that was already though of, I'm screwing around with reactions right now to see if I can make the bed and bed workshop.

The only trouble is that no language is as awesome as the kobolds random syllables.

We seriously need a language file full of grlfbnlum. I want to be able to name camps.

There we go, had to up the cave count.

Did it work?

The old kobold camp used to be all I played, probably going to be the same for this one. I have a full set of kobold graphics if anyone is interested.

Somebody needs to figure out how to insert them, if anything. D'you think the author will be mad if I make a Doctor Kob sprite editing the old cutebold graphics? I don't remember who made them.

[Lofn]

I've been trying to sort out some fur-making and leather-bed-producing raws, but they don't really want to cooperate.  I'll post here if I finish them.

[Squeegy]

When you say they can't dig into stone, I hope you mean that I must use the honor system and not dig into stone.

If you're willing to impose playing kobolds on yourself, surely you can decide to only dig into soil.

[LordFrank]

So, each time I try to make a world it gets to the placeing of civilizations then rejects the world and starts over. Anyone know how I can fix that? I'd really like to start tormenting some kobolds.

[Lofn]

OKAY.  I got them working properly.

First, add [MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:FUR_MAT:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:FUR] to SKIN_TEMPLATE in material_template_default.txt.

Now add [ADD_MATERIAL:FUR:TANNED_FUR_TEMPLATE] to the bottom of [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_MATERIALS] in b_detail_plan_default.

Next, add the following to either material_template_default.txt or a new material_template file if you want to keep them seperate.

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[MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:TANNED_FUR_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:BROWN]
[STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:fur]
[STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:furs]
[STATE_COLOR:LIQUID:BROWN]
[STATE_NAME:LIQUID:n/a]
[STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:n/a]
[STATE_COLOR:GAS:BROWN]
[STATE_NAME:GAS:n/a]
[STATE_ADJ:GAS:n/a]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:6:0:0]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:2]
[SPEC_HEAT:420]
[IGNITE_POINT:6508]
[MELTING_POINT:NONE]
[BOILING_POINT:NONE]
[HEATDAM_POINT:750]
[COLDDAM_POINT:18900]
[MAT_FIXED_TEMP:NONE]
[SOLID_DENSITY:400]
[LIQUID_DENSITY:NONE]
[MOLAR_MASS:NONE]
[IMPACT_YIELD:10000]
[IMPACT_FRACTURE:10000]
[IMPACT_ELASTICITY:50000]
[COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:10000]
[COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:10000]
[COMPRESSIVE_ELASTICITY:50000]
[TENSILE_YIELD:10000]
[TENSILE_FRACTURE:10000]
[TENSILE_ELASTICITY:50000]
[TORSION_YIELD:10000]
[TORSION_FRACTURE:10000]
[TORSION_ELASTICITY:50000]
[SHEAR_YIELD:25000]
[SHEAR_FRACTURE:25000]
[SHEAR_ELASTICITY:50000]
[BENDING_YIELD:10000]
[BENDING_FRACTURE:10000]
[BENDING_ELASTICITY:50000]
[MAX_EDGE:0]
[ABSORPTION:80]
[IMPLIES_ANIMAL_KILL]
[LEATHER]
[ITEMS_LEATHER]

Now create a new reaction file, and paste in:

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reaction_<whateveryoucallthefile>

[OBJECT:REACTION]

[REACTION:PRODUCE_LEATHER_BEDDING]
[NAME:create leather bedding]
[BUILDING:FURRIER:NONE]
[REAGENT:A:1:SKIN_TANNED:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[PRODUCT:100:1:BED:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE]
[PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
[SKILL:LEATHERWORK]

[REACTION:TAN_A_FUR]
[NAME:tan a fur]
[BUILDING:FURRIER:NONE]
[REAGENT:A:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE][USE_BODY_COMPONENT][UNROTTEN]
[HAS_MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:FUR_MAT]
[PRODUCT:100:1:SKIN_TANNED:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:FUR_MAT]
[SKILL:TANNER]
[AUTOMATIC]

Lastly, create a new building file and paste in the following:

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building_<whateveryoucallthefile>

[OBJECT:BUILDING]

[BUILDING_WORKSHOP:FURRIER]
[NAME:Furrier's Shop]
[NAME_COLOR:7:0:1]
[DIM:3:3]
[WORK_LOCATION:2:2]
[BUILD_LABOR:TANNER]
[BUILD_KEY:CUSTOM_SHIFT_F]
[BLOCK:1:0:0:0]
[BLOCK:2:0:0:0]
[BLOCK:3:0:0:0]
[TILE:0:1:' ':' ':150]
[TILE:0:2:' ':' ':'/']
[TILE:0:3:'-':' ':' ']
[COLOR:0:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
[COLOR:0:2:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
[COLOR:0:3:6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
[TILE:1:1:' ':' ':'=']
[TILE:1:2:'-':' ':8]
[TILE:1:3:' ':' ':150]
[COLOR:1:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
[COLOR:1:2:6:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
[COLOR:1:3:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
[TILE:2:1:'-':' ':8]
[TILE:2:2:' ':' ':8]
[TILE:2:3:' ':150:' ']
[COLOR:2:1:6:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
[COLOR:2:2:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
[COLOR:2:3:0:0:0:6:0:0:0:0:0]
[TILE:3:1:150:' ':8]
[TILE:3:2:' ':' ':8]
[TILE:3:3:' ':240:' ']
[COLOR:3:1:6:0:0:0:0:0:6:7:0]
[COLOR:3:2:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:7:0]
[COLOR:3:3:0:0:0:7:0:1:0:0:0]
[BUILD_ITEM:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE][BUILDMAT][WORTHLESS_STONE_ONLY][CAN_USE_ARTIFACT]

You should now be able to tan skin at the Furrier's Shop for fur, which can then be used to make leather goods at the Leatherworker's shop or turned into bedding at the Furrier's shop.

[robfd]

you forgot to add the entrys that allow them for the civilization Code in spoiler

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[PERMITTED_BUILDING:FURRIER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:TAN_A_FUR]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PRODUCE_LEATHER_BEDDING]
you need to add this into the Entity for Kobolds otherwise you cannot use the reactions or the building

[Lofn]

Whoops, so I did!  Thanks for pointing that out.

[Pathos]

So, each time I try to make a world it gets to the placeing of civilizations then rejects the world and starts over. Anyone know how I can fix that? I'd really like to start tormenting some kobolds.

Make more caves for world creation.

Well I abandoned the reaction/workshop for now, trying out Nobles since it looks like you just C&P and edit to fit society....

Here's what I have assuming it works

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    [POSITION:CHIEFTAN]
        [NAME:chieftan:chieftans]
        [NUMBER:1]
        [SPOUSE_MALE:tribe father:tribe fathers]
        [SPOUSE_FEMALE:tribe mother:tribe mothers]
        [SUCCESSION:BY_HEIR]
        [RESPONSIBILITY:LAW_MAKING]
        [RESPONSIBILITY:RECEIVE_DIPLOMATS]
        [RESPONSIBILITY:MILITARY_GOALS]
        [PRECEDENCE:1]
        [RULES_FROM_LOCATION]
        [MENIAL_WORK_EXEMPTION]
        [MENIAL_WORK_EXEMPTION_SPOUSE]
        [PUNISHMENT_EXEMPTION]
        [FLASHES]
        [BRAG_ON_KILL]
        [CHAT_WORTHY]
        [DO_NOT_CULL]
        [KILL_QUEST]
        [EXPORTED_IN_LEGENDS]
        [DETERMINES_COIN_DESIGN]
        [COLOR:5:0:1]
        [ACCOUNT_EXEMPT]
        [DUTY_BOUND]
        [REQUIRED_BOXES:3]
        [REQUIRED_CABINETS:3]
        [REQUIRED_RACKS:2]
        [REQUIRED_STANDS:2]
        [REQUIRED_OFFICE:1500]
        [REQUIRED_BEDROOM:1500]
        [REQUIRED_DINING:1500]
        [REQUIRED_TOMB:500]
    [POSITION:HEAD_KOBOLD]
        [NAME:head kobold:head kobolds]
        [SITE]
        [NUMBER:1]
        [REPLACED_BY:VILLAGE_CHIEF]
        [RULES_FROM_LOCATION]
        [RESPONSIBILITY:MEET_WORKERS]
        [RESPONSIBILITY:RECEIVE_DIPLOMATS]
        [RESPONSIBILITY:MILITARY_GOALS]
        [PRECEDENCE:110]
        [DO_NOT_CULL]
        [ACCOUNT_EXEMPT]
        [DUTY_BOUND]
    [POSITION:VILLAGE_CHIEF]
        [NAME:village chief:village chiefs]
        [SITE]
        [NUMBER:1]
        [RESPONSIBILITY:MEET_WORKERS]
        [RESPONSIBILITY:RECEIVE_DIPLOMATS]
        [RESPONSIBILITY:MILITARY_GOALS]
        [REQUIRES_POPULATION:50]
        [RULES_FROM_LOCATION]
        [SUCCESSION:BY_HEIR]
        [PRECEDENCE:60]
        [FLASHES]
        [BRAG_ON_KILL]
        [CHAT_WORTHY]
        [DO_NOT_CULL]
        [KILL_QUEST]
        [COLOR:5:0:0]
        [ACCOUNT_EXEMPT]
        [DUTY_BOUND]
        [REQUIRED_BOXES:2]
        [REQUIRED_CABINETS:1]
        [REQUIRED_RACKS:1]
        [REQUIRED_STANDS:1]
        [REQUIRED_OFFICE:500]
        [REQUIRED_BEDROOM:500]
        [REQUIRED_DINING:500]
    [POSITION:WITCH_DOCTOR]
        [NAME:Witch Doctor:Witch Doctors]
        [SITE]
        [NUMBER:1]
        [RESPONSIBILITY:HEALTH_MANAGEMENT]
        [APPOINTED_BY:HEAD_KOBOLD]
        [APPOINTED_BY:VILLAGE_CHIEF]
        [PRECEDENCE:165]
        [DO_NOT_CULL]
        [COLOR:5:0:0]
        [DUTY_BOUND]


Now to test, at least the early guys.

Very nice! Added to the version, it'll be released in about an hour.

OKAY.  I got them working properly.

First, add [MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:FUR_MAT:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:FUR] to SKIN_TEMPLATE in material_template_default.txt.

Now add [ADD_MATERIAL:FUR:TANNED_FUR_TEMPLATE] to the bottom of [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_MATERIALS] in b_detail_plan_default.

Next, add the following to either material_template_default.txt or a new material_template file if you want to keep them seperate.

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[MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:TANNED_FUR_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:BROWN]
[STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:fur]
[STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:furs]
[STATE_COLOR:LIQUID:BROWN]
[STATE_NAME:LIQUID:n/a]
[STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:n/a]
[STATE_COLOR:GAS:BROWN]
[STATE_NAME:GAS:n/a]
[STATE_ADJ:GAS:n/a]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:6:0:0]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:2]
[SPEC_HEAT:420]
[IGNITE_POINT:6508]
[MELTING_POINT:NONE]
[BOILING_POINT:NONE]
[HEATDAM_POINT:750]
[COLDDAM_POINT:18900]
[MAT_FIXED_TEMP:NONE]
[SOLID_DENSITY:400]
[LIQUID_DENSITY:NONE]
[MOLAR_MASS:NONE]
[IMPACT_YIELD:10000]
[IMPACT_FRACTURE:10000]
[IMPACT_ELASTICITY:50000]
[COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:10000]
[COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:10000]
[COMPRESSIVE_ELASTICITY:50000]
[TENSILE_YIELD:10000]
[TENSILE_FRACTURE:10000]
[TENSILE_ELASTICITY:50000]
[TORSION_YIELD:10000]
[TORSION_FRACTURE:10000]
[TORSION_ELASTICITY:50000]
[SHEAR_YIELD:25000]
[SHEAR_FRACTURE:25000]
[SHEAR_ELASTICITY:50000]
[BENDING_YIELD:10000]
[BENDING_FRACTURE:10000]
[BENDING_ELASTICITY:50000]
[MAX_EDGE:0]
[ABSORPTION:80]
[IMPLIES_ANIMAL_KILL]
[LEATHER]
[ITEMS_LEATHER]

Now create a new reaction file, and paste in:

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reaction_<whateveryoucallthefile>

[OBJECT:REACTION]

[REACTION:PRODUCE_LEATHER_BEDDING]
[NAME:create leather bedding]
[BUILDING:FURRIER:NONE]
[REAGENT:A:1:SKIN_TANNED:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[PRODUCT:100:1:BED:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE]
[PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
[SKILL:LEATHERWORK]

[REACTION:TAN_A_FUR]
[NAME:tan a fur]
[BUILDING:FURRIER:NONE]
[REAGENT:A:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE][USE_BODY_COMPONENT][UNROTTEN]
[HAS_MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:FUR_MAT]
[PRODUCT:100:1:SKIN_TANNED:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:FUR_MAT]
[SKILL:TANNER]
[AUTOMATIC]

Lastly, create a new building file and paste in the following:

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building_<whateveryoucallthefile>

[OBJECT:BUILDING]

[BUILDING_WORKSHOP:FURRIER]
[NAME:Furrier's Shop]
[NAME_COLOR:7:0:1]
[DIM:3:3]
[WORK_LOCATION:2:2]
[BUILD_LABOR:TANNER]
[BUILD_KEY:CUSTOM_SHIFT_F]
[BLOCK:1:0:0:0]
[BLOCK:2:0:0:0]
[BLOCK:3:0:0:0]
[TILE:0:1:' ':' ':150]
[TILE:0:2:' ':' ':'/']
[TILE:0:3:'-':' ':' ']
[COLOR:0:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
[COLOR:0:2:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
[COLOR:0:3:6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
[TILE:1:1:' ':' ':'=']
[TILE:1:2:'-':' ':8]
[TILE:1:3:' ':' ':150]
[COLOR:1:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
[COLOR:1:2:6:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
[COLOR:1:3:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
[TILE:2:1:'-':' ':8]
[TILE:2:2:' ':' ':8]
[TILE:2:3:' ':150:' ']
[COLOR:2:1:6:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
[COLOR:2:2:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
[COLOR:2:3:0:0:0:6:0:0:0:0:0]
[TILE:3:1:150:' ':8]
[TILE:3:2:' ':' ':8]
[TILE:3:3:' ':240:' ']
[COLOR:3:1:6:0:0:0:0:0:6:7:0]
[COLOR:3:2:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:7:0]
[COLOR:3:3:0:0:0:7:0:1:0:0:0]
[BUILD_ITEM:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE][BUILDMAT][WORTHLESS_STONE_ONLY][CAN_USE_ARTIFACT]

You should now be able to tan skin at the Furrier's Shop for fur, which can then be used to make leather goods at the Leatherworker's shop or turned into bedding at the Furrier's shop.

Beautiful!