Bay 12 Games Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  
Pages: 1 ... 8 9 [10]

Author Topic: Let's Horribly Break Hidden Agenda  (Read 67125 times)

Servant Corps

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Let's Horribly Break Hidden Agenda
« Reply #135 on: March 08, 2011, 02:15:57 pm »

Waffleimages seem to went bankrupt, so several of its mirrors have been shut down, and there may be future shutdowns. I only linked to three Waffleimages picture, and while I rescued 2 pictures, 1 picture is gone. I'll try to see if it come back up.
Logged
I have left Bay12Games to pursue a life of non-Bay12Games. If you need to talk to me, please email at me at igorhorst at gmail dot com.

Lenin_Cat

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Let's Horribly Break Hidden Agenda
« Reply #136 on: March 20, 2011, 07:04:38 pm »

My hate for Hidden Agenda has been subsiding, and I guess I would like to try out new things to break the game. However, I don't know of anything else to do other than try to replicate the "United States sending military aid to Marxists" glitch. If you would like to suggest me new stuff to do, please let me know now.
How do you produce that glitch?
Logged

Servant Corps

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Let's Horribly Break Hidden Agenda
« Reply #137 on: March 20, 2011, 09:22:24 pm »

My hate for Hidden Agenda has been subsiding, and I guess I would like to try out new things to break the game. However, I don't know of anything else to do other than try to replicate the "United States sending military aid to Marxists" glitch. If you would like to suggest me new stuff to do, please let me know now.
How do you produce that glitch?

My speculation is that the following must happen:
1) Correa must be Sole Chief of Staff.
2) You must have won an election to the Presidency, running as the National Liberation candidate, in the previous turn.
3) You must have good relations with the US.
4) You must constantly refuse Correa's calls for building up a military and establishing a draft.

I haven't tested it yet, but it seems that this seems to be the way to replicate the glitch.
Logged
I have left Bay12Games to pursue a life of non-Bay12Games. If you need to talk to me, please email at me at igorhorst at gmail dot com.

Servant Corps

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Let's Horribly Break Hidden Agenda
« Reply #138 on: April 22, 2015, 12:57:32 pm »

Well, half the images in this LP are gone, but it's still inspiring people somehow. A fellow Bay12er (halosammy) has sent me a private message telling me how he has beaten Hidden Agenda, and I thought I should share that with the thread. He also found a PDF detailing all of the possible solutions in that game (no mention of how to invoke the "receive American military aid as a leftist" glitch, but you probably don't really need it anyway). The step-by-step instruction should make it easy for people to follow along.

Just played Hidden Agenda again. I think I finally managed to figure out how to "win". The methods were probably glitches, but I guess they can be easily explained away in context. I purged the right-wing army, and began a military buildup, before using my token CR cabinet member to limit the buildup after a few turns. The lack of a draft didn't scare the U.S. Into an embargo, and didn't trigger the events where the reactionaries go batshit insane by bombing clinics and schools.

Pretty sure what happened is that while a lack of a military buildup triggers the events where cities begin to come under occupation, while too much military buildup triggers the events where the CIA provided funding, and things escalate into a straight-up proxy war. Not building up too much triggered neither of the event chains, and the reactionaries completely disappeared from the newspapers, and military costs never moved an inch.

Next on the list of things to maintain was the relationship stat with the U.S. It turns out that socialist policies are not actually what alienates them. Accepting advice from NL cabinet members is what does it. That means that youmcaninolement as many socialist policies as you want as long as you accept proposals from influentials. Due to this, financial aid  rather than development loans were being referred to on the issues brought up by the external minister.

While it is almost certainly a glitch that the Reactos seem to disappear, it makes a certain amount of sense if you remember that USA Yesterday actually noted that the reactionaries would not survive without external support, which they do not receive since you don't build up the military enough to scare the States.

Here is where things go into power gaming territory though. When talking with the IMF, following advice to "reschedule loans" actually adds hard currency to the treasury each time it is done without adding any debt. Doing this, I managed to allocate maximum funding to healthcare, education, and infrastructure and still watch the currency reserves go above the debt level on the graph.

Funnily enough, not implementing policies through NL cabinet members caused the final evaluation to call me right wing  :-\

Credit goes to: http://www.info2.uqam.ca/~walsh_t/tales/Hidden_Agenda.pdf

I have not yet tested if this works out (due to me still loathing Hidden Agenda), but the step-by-step instructions are there, and the post does seems plausible enough and accords with the previous information I had gathered (for example, foreign aid does appear to carry interest associated with it). Thanks halosammy!
« Last Edit: April 22, 2015, 12:59:23 pm by Servant Corps »
Logged
I have left Bay12Games to pursue a life of non-Bay12Games. If you need to talk to me, please email at me at igorhorst at gmail dot com.
Pages: 1 ... 8 9 [10]