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[Tormy]

quote:Originally posted by dyze:
<STRONG>that looks just awesome! but as toady mentioned in that other thread, i suppose its a lot of work, and will take some time..
thats why i have a quick dirty proposition to get world graphics!

simply separate what is displayed in the world and general text into 2 different font sets. that way, atleast users can create grayscale graphics, and tinker with the color settings.

like i have done here (for the previous version of df, looks a bit weird in the new one):
http://i22.tinypic.com/j7rxav.gif

[ October 30, 2007: Message edited by: dyze ]</STRONG>

dyze, this tileset works with the new version? Also where can I download it from?

[Vay'lon]

Ah!
This Han-man's work looks fantastic!
Only, I see this raping everyone's processor.

[Tormy]

quote:Originally posted by Vay'lon:
<STRONG>Ah!
This Han-man's work looks fantastic!
Only, I see this raping everyone's processor.</STRONG>

Why? Your gfx card will take care it, not your processor.
 

[Fortunatos]

There's definitely potential in sprites, though with the sheer amount of information to convey and different creature varieties and statuses it's going to be a hard balancing act between something that looks pretty and has first-time readability ("what's that 'd' over there represent?" versus "that sprite looks like a dog") versus being functional and having real-time distinct readability ("I don't even see the numbers these days. That's a statue, that's a wall, those are tables..." versus "All the dogs look the same and I can't see them over all this brown stone anyway, and what's with that dwarf having a couple different pixels? Oh, he's starving.")

Of course, I think the much bigger issue is increasing the number of tiles on screen at a time by reducing the black space. Which is a future task, but it needs to be a priority future task. I can't really manage north-south fortresses with only 24x80 tiles.

[Fortunatos]

I should add that out of all the sprite sets I've seen, I prefer the dwarves and animals in the one Mayday made himself. Much more use of distinguishing color and less superfluous gradients that break up the shapes.

[Vay'lon]

But seriously, Toady, add isometric support.

[Vay'lon]

[ November 05, 2007: Message edited by: Vay'lon ]

[Fortunatos]

Bleh, I'd rather not have to deal with isometrics. Definitely does not make looking into mountainsides very easy.

[Tormy]

quote:Originally posted by Fortunatos:
<STRONG>I should add that out of all the sprite sets I've seen, I prefer the dwarves and animals in the one Mayday made himself. Much more use of distinguishing color and less superfluous gradients that break up the shapes.</STRONG>

Where can we download mayday's tileset from? or what are you talking about?

[Goncyn]

That art is fantastic. It would fit the game perfectly. I can deal with the current ASCII tiles, but I still look forward eagerly to the day when we have high quality art like this in DF.

[Mike Mayday]

quote:Originally posted by adron:
<STRONG>mike> if Hans' sprites were to go ahead, would they support dismemberment/other gore?
also, how would they represent wrestling? seems like quite a complicated system to depict accurately through sprites, especially considering different creature sizes/shapes. </STRONG>

I think if we were to have it, the first release would work just as it works now- so no depiction of dismemberment- though cleverly designed icons will help convey the creature state.

quote:Originally posted by Fortunatos:
<STRONG>Bleh, I'd rather not have to deal with isometrics. Definitely does not make looking into mountainsides very easy.</STRONG>

By mountainsides- you mean cliffs etc.? I actually crave this idea because I think it's a much better and more convenient way of depicting elevation and buildings. Could you elaborate on your opinion? (or perhaps some ideas on how to make it better?).

quote:Originally posted by Tormy:
<STRONG>Where can we download mayday's tileset from? or what are you talking about?</STRONG>

My tileset is not currently usable in DF (it's 32px http://mayday.w.staszic.waw.pl/~mayday/files/all15.jpg  )

[Merlon]

Hans's example picture looks awesome.

Apart from the obvious extra work involved. The isometric view might have some problems with cliffs, walls etc obscuring view. This in turn could be solved by showing only the foundations of the walls, perhaps a bit like the empty grey tiles at the bottom of that example picture.

quote:My tileset is not currently usable in DF (it's 32px http://mayday.w.staszic.waw.pl/~mayday/files/all15.jpg  )

Love the elephants. Do you do carps as well?

[Eagle of Fire]

quote:Originally posted by Mike Mayday:
Tadaaaa!

Here is Hans' work: http://spriteattack.cator.de//df/show/  

Wow, it looks like a cross between extremely good graphics and the graphic system of the early Populous titles... And with the implementation of several different layers of heights in the new version, it would make a lot of sense too.

You get my vote!

[ November 06, 2007: Message edited by: Eagle of Fire ]

[axus]

Ya see the problem with good art is that you have to pay for it.

[Tormy]

quote:Originally posted by Mike Mayday:
<STRONG>

My tileset is not currently usable in DF (it's 32px http://mayday.w.staszic.waw.pl/~mayday/files/all15.jpg  )</STRONG>

Argh....hm will it be usable someday?
 

[ November 06, 2007: Message edited by: Tormy ]