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Eagle_eye

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Re: Water / magma submarine
« Reply #240 on: May 18, 2010, 12:44:18 am »

I think the food would burn...
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Re: Water / magma submarine
« Reply #241 on: May 18, 2010, 06:10:11 am »

Yeah, it transfers heat, hence the burning lignite inna bin trick.

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« Reply #242 on: May 18, 2010, 07:24:23 am »

You could actually possibly use that with a nice airlock system.

Just have multiple layers. The first layer is just a hatch, a single open space, and then another hatch. Below that, have 7 open spaces so your magma can evaporate instead of burninating your hungry dwarves, and then another hatch. How would you get them there? I have no idea, so this idea is probably a moot point.

And yeah, I meant sending down a cage in a sub. Does furniture fall at the same rate as constructions or creatures? Creatures will fall too slow and get encased in cooling magma, but if constructions fall fast, they could potentially reach the bubble. However, since everything gets automatically deconstructed, I'd guess that they fall at the same rate as items, and therefore creatures.
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« Reply #243 on: May 18, 2010, 02:33:41 pm »

Why don't you guys just...cover your fortress in lava? Isn't it the same thing?
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Re: Water / magma submarine
« Reply #244 on: May 18, 2010, 03:46:50 pm »

It's cooler to have the structure under a natural, undisturbed waterline (or magmaline).  Otherwise we could just drain the liquid, maybe by tossing some flaming lignite into the ocean, build the structure, then let it refill.
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Re: Water / magma submarine
« Reply #245 on: May 18, 2010, 03:48:41 pm »

that would involve a sacrificial dwarf though...
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« Reply #246 on: May 18, 2010, 04:14:00 pm »

And yeah, I meant sending down a cage in a sub. Does furniture fall at the same rate as constructions or creatures? Creatures will fall too slow and get encased in cooling magma, but if constructions fall fast, they could potentially reach the bubble. However, since everything gets automatically deconstructed, I'd guess that they fall at the same rate as items, and therefore creatures.
Yup. It's only solid terrain that falls instantly; everything else including liquids seems to fall the same steady rate; each single tile of solid terrain falls as far as it can. Thus the reluctant conclusion that a genuine dwarven submarine / drop-pod is impossible.

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Re: Water / magma submarine
« Reply #247 on: May 18, 2010, 04:36:05 pm »

DWARVEN DIVAH, You been down too long in the magma sea. Oh what's becoming of me.
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Re: Water / magma submarine
« Reply #248 on: May 18, 2010, 04:56:13 pm »

Way doooown, below the ocean.
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Re: Water / magma submarine
« Reply #249 on: August 09, 2010, 12:13:43 pm »

regarding the pod idea.

i actually tried a drop pod test above ground....... i launched five pods each with a chair, one dwarf, and a barrel of fish. there were no survivors
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Re: Water / magma submarine
« Reply #250 on: August 09, 2010, 01:49:53 pm »

Idea!

Pierce an aquifer, and seal it by casting, rather than smoothing. you can then use it to provide infinite coolant, correct? even a single tile far to the top of the craft could provide a great deal of water. and the magma would seal it off easily, so once you get there it's not like your dwarves will drown. a tile in the crew cabin could easily be used to fuel terraforming projects yes?

Perhaps even find a way to carve it out of solid Aquifer.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2010, 01:57:06 pm by lanceleoghauni »
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Re: Water / magma submarine
« Reply #251 on: April 01, 2011, 01:09:37 pm »

Rather than doing it on the "raw" area,make a frickin big enclosed WATER lake,and test all the stuff in there. do it.

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« Reply #252 on: April 25, 2012, 05:47:00 pm »

Read through the first 10 pages, and as I understand it, one of the bigger problems is the semi-molten rock beneath the sea. What if one was to build a single Z-level platform as large as the sub, and drop it onto the semi-molten rock, and the sub after that?

Or even dropping multiple waves of single layer platforms to create a giant solid block of stone, which could then be hollowed out.



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Re: Water / magma submarine
« Reply #253 on: April 25, 2012, 06:07:14 pm »

Anything dropped onto semi-molten rock tiles is destroyed.  The platform you drop first won't fall as a platform, but as individual tiles, each of which will be destroyed when it hits the semi-molten rock.
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« Reply #254 on: April 25, 2012, 06:31:37 pm »

What if you were to BUILD the platform one level above SMR, then drop the sub?

Was thinking of parting the sea using pumps, not sure that would work though.
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