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What should Zathel do on his turn?

Hook up FAILCANNON to magma sea (powered by a huge dwarven reactor).
- 11 (28.2%)
Build a castle over the fortress entrance.
- 11 (28.2%)
Flush all the grime from Battlefailed with carefully arranged sewage system.
- 7 (17.9%)
Construct opulent quarters for every dwarf in Battlefailed.
- 3 (7.7%)
Get rid of every Forgotten Beast using huge cave-in traps
- 7 (17.9%)

Total Members Voted: 39

Voting closed: July 31, 2010, 02:35:48 pm


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TurkeyXIII

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Re: Battlefailed (Succession) Coastal Zombie Hellscape.
« Reply #615 on: July 28, 2010, 01:21:08 pm »





I believe the aquifer flood was released by Melkorp, and is an entirely different problem.  Last I checked, the flooded area ("lake mistake") was of little consequence and didn't flow (so no fps loss).  That might have changed though.

For Urist: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=57052.msg1417979#msg1417979
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Re: Battlefailed (Succession) Coastal Zombie Hellscape.
« Reply #616 on: July 28, 2010, 02:05:05 pm »

A couple of final notes and questions...

I'm relatively new to dwarf fortress so that was my first succession fortress turn.  I have to say that running at 7 or so FPS while the siege was on was brutal.  I was up to maybe 10 or 15 for the rest of the time which felt quite snappy after 7.

I played this entire turn on 32.12.  I didn't copy over an raws or make any changes though.  I'm not 100% sure when one needs to do this so I didn't mess with it.

It took me a while to wrap my head around what I needed to do to fix the FAILCANNON.  There were a few missteps and a few pitfalls like a few gears mechanisms in the walls.  Gears aren't watertight, so the first effort just flooded everything.  It did eventually work out and allow the leaks to be plugged, but it wasn't until late in the year.  On the plus side we should be able to recover a lot of lost supplies once the water level recedes.

I have no idea why burial isn't working.. nobody will bury anyone despite a ton of free coffins marked to allow pets and citizens.

Clothing and armor... ugh, I have no idea how to make dwarves put their clothing back on.  I tried a number of things, putting them in new squads with different equipment designations.  Taking them out of quads.. I just don't understand what is wrong.   The squads are a mishmash right now because I had put people into them who aren't military types.  Actually having dwarves carry around a flask is a great thing, they can go a lot longer without having to run back for booze which is important when the main construction project is 100 z levels from the booze.

I carved out a new tree farm and irrigated it, but trees take a very long time to grow.

We could probably use a barracks, but I didn't assign one because I needed Zon for the workforce.  I think he is no longer rusty at most of the combat skills which he was at the start of the year.   We have a number of well equipped dwarves, but the only other one with notable combat skills, Kubek, insists on running around naked.

Lastly I had the doctor on very limited duties throughout the year since people would periodically go back in to the hospital for examinations.  Nobody has really been sick or gotten injured since the first month when dwarves were dropping like flies.

Good luck and have fun!
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Zathel

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Re: Battlefailed (Succession) Coastal Zombie Hellscape.
« Reply #617 on: July 28, 2010, 02:30:29 pm »

It's me next, right? I'll get to playing tomorrow. I think the raws need to be overwritten, I'll get to that too.

On another note, is there something really important I should do when I start? Otherwise I'll engage in another zany scheme like the last time. Not moving the fortress though, it'd be stale.

Hm, maybe I'll put it under the vote (Robocorn, put it in the poll if possible?). My current ideas are:
1. Hooking up FAILCANNON to magma sea (powered by a huge dwarven reactor)
2. Building a castle over the fortress entrance
3. Flushing all the grime from Battlefailed with carefully arranged sewage system
4. Constructing opulent quarters for every dwarf in Battlefailed
5. Getting rid of every Forgotten Beast using huge cave-in traps
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Re: Battlefailed (Succession) Coastal Zombie Hellscape.
« Reply #618 on: July 28, 2010, 02:39:19 pm »

I've put up the poll. It won't be up for long so don't rely on it too much.

As a personal suggestion. Do something about all the bones! they're killing the framerate and we just keep getting more of them! Make them into armor! make them into bolts to shoot at goblins! make them into totems and send them off with the humans! anything just get rid of the bones!

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Re: Battlefailed (Succession) Coastal Zombie Hellscape.
« Reply #619 on: July 28, 2010, 02:40:45 pm »

*Reads entire thread.*

There is no what big enough.
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Urist Imiknorris

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Re: Battlefailed (Succession) Coastal Zombie Hellscape.
« Reply #620 on: July 28, 2010, 02:51:24 pm »

I don't think the raws need overwriting.

Keep the diamond slug alive. It's basically in the same position the fort is - you'd think it would be long dead, but it isn't. It may as well be our mascot.
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Re: Battlefailed (Succession) Coastal Zombie Hellscape.
« Reply #621 on: July 28, 2010, 03:33:01 pm »

I've put up the poll. It won't be up for long so don't rely on it too much.

As a personal suggestion. Do something about all the bones! they're killing the framerate and we just keep getting more of them! Make them into armor! make them into bolts to shoot at goblins! make them into totems and send them off with the humans! anything just get rid of the bones!

I can atom smash them maybe?

Actually, it's a damn shame bones can't be used as a building material. Unless someone knows a way how to do it (custom reaction maybe?) without re-genning the world?
« Last Edit: July 28, 2010, 03:52:58 pm by Zathel »
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Re: Battlefailed (Succession) Coastal Zombie Hellscape.
« Reply #622 on: July 28, 2010, 04:09:32 pm »

Bone blocks :D
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Re: Battlefailed (Succession) Coastal Zombie Hellscape.
« Reply #623 on: July 28, 2010, 04:12:51 pm »

Mod an existing reaction (nobody uses fine pewter) to use bones and produce blocks of them.
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I don't know how it works. It does.
Quote from: Jim Groovester
YOU CANT NOT HAVE SUSPECTS IN A GAME OF MAFIA

ITS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE GAME
Quote from: Cheeetar
If Tiruin redirected the lynch, then this means that, and... the Illuminati! Of course!

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Re: Battlefailed (Succession) Coastal Zombie Hellscape.
« Reply #624 on: July 28, 2010, 04:20:18 pm »

Mod an existing reaction (nobody uses fine pewter) to use bones and produce blocks of them.
That's actually pretty brilliant. A bottle of sewer brew for you. We could be the first fort to have a literal ivory tower.

Just put in some filler about figuring out how to make bone blocks.

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Re: Battlefailed (Succession) Coastal Zombie Hellscape.
« Reply #625 on: July 28, 2010, 04:26:45 pm »

Battelfailed Bone castle.

Wow. this place is becoming more like a final fantasy Final boss dungeon by the minute.
The only thing better would be to rig the entire place to collapse at the pull of a lever, simulating the death of a load bearing boss. And maybe accidently killing a forgotten beast in the process.
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Re: Battlefailed (Succession) Coastal Zombie Hellscape.
« Reply #626 on: July 28, 2010, 04:43:23 pm »

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[REACTION:PEWTER_LAY_MAKING]
[NAME:make bone blocks]
[BUILDING:CRAFT:NONE]
   [REAGENT:A:5:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE][REACTION_CLASS:BONE]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:GLOB:NONE:NONE:A:][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
   [SKILL:BONECARVE]
   [AUTOMATIC]
This was the closest thing I could make, If someone's better at modding than me I hope they can give it a try.

Urist Imiknorris

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« Reply #627 on: July 28, 2010, 05:58:01 pm »

I think it would be more like

[REACTION:<existing reaction that won't be used>]
[NAME:make bone blocks]
[BUILDING:<whatever the craftsdwarf's workshop is>:NONE]
[REAGENT:1:BONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[PRODUCT:100:1:BLOCKS:NONE:NONE:NONE][GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT]
[SKILL:<bone carving skill goes here>]

replace the <phrases> with the proper tags, preferably test somewhere else, and if it works, voila.

Add me back to the turn list please.

EDIT: Maybe it's
[REAGENT:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE][HAS_BONE_MAT]

I have no clue.
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I don't know how it works. It does.
Quote from: Jim Groovester
YOU CANT NOT HAVE SUSPECTS IN A GAME OF MAFIA

ITS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE GAME
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If Tiruin redirected the lynch, then this means that, and... the Illuminati! Of course!

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Re: Battlefailed (Succession) Coastal Zombie Hellscape.
« Reply #628 on: July 28, 2010, 06:11:09 pm »

[REACTION:FINE_PEWTER_MAKING]
[NAME:make bone blocks]
[BUILDING:MASON:NONE] (because I don't want to risk anything)
[REAGENT:5:BONE:NONE:NONE:NONE] (I made it less efficient so we actually lose bones. We don't need fifteen hundred blocks because that would be just as bad)
[PRODUCT:100:1:BLOCKS:NONE:NONE:NONE][GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT]
[SKILL:BONECARVE (I looked it up it's bonecarve)

EDIT: both of ours crash the game. We need to work on this a little more
« Last Edit: July 28, 2010, 06:21:35 pm by Robocorn »
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Re: Battlefailed (Succession) Coastal Zombie Hellscape.
« Reply #629 on: July 28, 2010, 06:13:27 pm »

Code: [Select]
[REACTION:NICKEL_SILVER_MAKING] Creiydrek actually likes pewter
[NAME:make bone blocks]
[BUILDING:KILN:CUSTOM_B] only certain buildings work with custom reactions, dunno why
[REAGENT:A:5:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE][ANY_BONE_MATERIAL][USE_BODY_COMPONENT]  they grab grouped stacks of bone so 5 makes them grab 5 stacks
[PRODUCT:100:1:BLOCKS:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE]
FUEL  you can bracket this if you like but we have magma kilns anyway
[SKILL:BONECARVE]

Sorry if this is extremely clunky, and I haven't tested it, but it should work.  I haven't had a great deal of time to figure out how the bones are handled.

Also, awesome turn, Pisano!  It's great that we're still alive (and thriving, so to speak).
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