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[Orange Wizard]

I have about five pages of updated topics because I can't be arsed going through them all.

Someone, somewhere, is eagerly awaiting my reply, and I have no idea.

[scriver]

Which leads me to my other rage: medical bills. I've dropped coming up on $3k on medical bills this year alone. I'm fucking sick of doctors, fucking sick of $200 to $300 office visits, sick of my cut rate insurance, sick of my body, SICK OF BEING FUCKING SICK. I went 10 fucking years without a single doctor's visit, but suddenly when I'm employed and have money, my body decides it's time to pull out all the stops.

The key is to befriend a doctor. Then if you are just slightly worried about something you can just ask their opinion, and if you really need some medicine they can even write you up a prescription for it! (We've saved quite a bit of money over the years on doctor's visits this way. )

*Pretend to befriend :v

[itisnotlogical]

I don't understand how some people can have self-perpetuating anger that just stays with them for hours at a time with no real reason to be angry. They start at the anger and then look for reasons to be angry. How do people live like that?

[nenjin]

Well, there's some truth to that.

Went to my doctor. Waited 30+ minutes past my appointment time for him to take 5 minutes, unsurprisedly diagnose my symptoms and prescribed me horse-pill sized antibiotics.

But he also asked about the (generic) nasal spray I'd been using, that I opted for because I refused to pay for the $181 a bottle brand name nasal spray that lasts about a week. When I told him I didn't really think the generic was all that effective......he shoved about $500 worth of free samples of said namebrand spray into my hands. I've been seeing this guy since I was like 12. So it's nice that, 20 years later, that loyalty has been paid back in some form.

So there's that. Really, my family has enough medical knowledge we generally know what a reasonable course of treatment is. It'd be nice to call in and say "I need a big fuckin' antibiotic, please check my records to see which one I can take" and just have them phone in a prescription....instead of the mandatory office visit, the mandatory sitting around for no good fucking reason and the mandatory $100+ bill you get. I like and respect doctors plenty but the older I get, the less patience I have for the actual healthcare system. Like getting a bill from the physician network where my ENT specialists reside.....because apparently the goddamn pianist playing in the lobby is my fucking responsibility to pay for.

I don't understand how some people can have self-perpetuating anger that just stays with them for hours at a time with no real reason to be angry. They start at the anger and then look for reasons to be angry. How do people live like that?

...lulz? This the Rage Thread. It's a strange question to pose here.

[Frumple]

... wouldn't this be the best place to pose the question, though? Presumably, when asking about anger, you go to people with experience being angry. Especially when you're dealing with reactive anger caused by someone else being pissed off for days.

More speculatively, there is some chemical feedback involved with anger. I'm not sure how possible it is to get literally addicted to it, but it's definitely behavior that can be fostered by repeated indulgence. You start out a little angry some of the time, and then suddenly you're this eternally raging roidbeast madly fornicating the walls in anger.

... it doesn't actually work like that, of course, but yeah.

[penguinofhonor]

People like that need to smoke more.

[Frumple]

Nah, then they just get pissed off by the cost of maintaining the habit. As well as adding another rage token to every moment they're not actively feeding the chemical addiction.

[nenjin]

From personal experience, questioning people's right to be angry just generally pisses them off more, expect it puts you in their sights instead of whatever else they were pissed off about.

A girlfriend of old once told me "Don't try to tell me how I should feel" and I've since taken that advice to heart. And yes, I do believe there's something biochemically addictive about certain degrees of anger. If for nothing else than the way it activates many bodily systems at once.

[Tiruin]

... wouldn't this be the best place to pose the question, though? Presumably, when asking about anger, you go to people with experience being angry. Especially when you're dealing with reactive anger caused by someone else being pissed off for days.

You mean experience with knowing how to handle being angry, right?
Because if its just 'experience being angry'...then that could also pertain to those who just get angry at everyone else with collateral consequences, too. :S

From personal experience, questioning people's right to be angry just generally pisses them off more, expect it puts you in their sights instead of whatever else they were pissed off about.

@_@
That's a very strange reason to be angry. It's like assuming something real bad when there is none...As in, a very neutral question.
Seems more like 'denouncing the feeling of anger with little reason behind it' than questioning the 'right' to be angry.
I mean, people get angry--but it gets worse when it is treated wholly as a sore or something bad without any other explanation than being putting off.

I don't understand how some people can have self-perpetuating anger that just stays with them for hours at a time with no real reason to be angry. They start at the anger and then look for reasons to be angry. How do people live like that?

...lulz? This the Rage Thread. It's a strange question to pose here.

Very valid question. While this is the Rage thread, it doesn't mean its the 'find some reasons to be angry because I'm angry' thread.

Because those are two wholly different things than talking about 'Why I'm Angry/What caused my Angry'.

A girlfriend of old once told me "Don't try to tell me how I should feel" and I've since taken that advice to heart. And yes, I do believe there's something biochemically addictive about certain degrees of anger. If for nothing else than the way it activates many bodily systems at once.

Reactive more like?

[itisnotlogical]

I don't understand how some people can have self-perpetuating anger that just stays with them for hours at a time with no real reason to be angry. They start at the anger and then look for reasons to be angry. How do people live like that?

...lulz? This the Rage Thread. It's a strange question to pose here.

Very valid question. While this is the Rage thread, it doesn't mean its the 'find some reasons to be angry because I'm angry' thread.

Because those are two wholly different things than talking about 'Why I'm Angry/What caused my Angry'.

Well, it's a person like that who is the cause for my RAEG of the moment. Should have been clearer.

[Frumple]

You mean experience with knowing how to handle being angry, right? Because if its just 'experience being angry'...then that could also pertain to those who just get angry at everyone else with collateral consequences, too. :S

That too, but mostly just being angry. I'm fairly sure the folks that get into self-perpetuating rage mode have no flipping clue how to handle their anger, and they're the ones itzy's seeking furious illumination in regards to.

E: Incidentally, Furious Illumination sounds like a good name for a gregorian chant/death metal band.

[MaximumZero]

I love being angry. It dulls the pain, helps me focus, makes me push through whatever my obstacles are. Maybe I'm addicted to it, but it's one of the keenest tools in my toolbox for dealing with problems. Granted, as I get older, it works on fewer and fewer problems, but the problems anger does fix, it fixes spectacularly.

Nothing like a good berserk to start your day.

[nenjin]

I don't really think Happy is the natural human emotional state. As a species we're only now living lives of relative stability and plenty, free of a lot of the life pressures that prevent one from really feeling happy.

Very valid question. While this is the Rage thread, it doesn't mean its the 'find some reasons to be angry because I'm angry' thread.

Because those are two wholly different things than talking about 'Why I'm Angry/What caused my Angry'.

I guess I don't really see it that way. In thinking about why you're angry, you're going to find additional things to be angry about or that explain it. This to me is the anger discovery thread, where I sort of lay out on paper my frustrations, peppered with a lot of profanity, after something has gotten me heated. When it's all vented, then I start to feel better. I've managed it, I've worked through it, I've logic'd it to the degree I'm able.

And I suppose, to me, anger isn't one of those emotions that needs explaining, sort of like sexual attraction doesn't need explaining. You just feel it as a biological urge. That some people cyclically indulge in it isn't a mystery to me. You will rarely ever feel your own raw power more than when you're right at the tipping point of thought-obliterating rage.

[Orange Wizard]

My "natural emotion" fluctuates between "happy/excited for no apparent reason" and "mildly pissed off for no apparent reason". I'm usually more pissed off than happy, though. No idea how normal that is.

Seconding the "angry can be good" notion. It can get things done.

[scrdest]

The natural human state - i.e. put someone somewhere without anything positively or negatively affecting his mood, no real dangers but no pleasures either - would be boredom.