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[Phreak]

God people if you really want to kill the elves with your dorfs then just use Runesmith and turn them to invaders or something so that you can see if a dwarf in full armor and a good weapon will win against an elf in rope read clothes and wooden(ftw?) sword. Heh dumb elves. Who came up with the idea of elves being so environmental?

[antymattar]

Tarn... Or possibly Zack couse he dose a lot of design too.

[assimilateur]

until they starve to death.

They won't do that. Currently only your dwarves need food and drink, invaders and traders, as well as miscellaneous animals, don't.

[Rowanas]

Madness will happen
the elves will start in-fighting
kill the survivor

[antymattar]

until they starve to death.

They won't do that. Currently only your dwarves need food and drink, invaders and traders, as well as miscellaneous animals, don't.

WTF!? Why?

[SenorPiquante]

Madness will happen
the elves will start in-fighting
kill the survivor

Well, even if they won't starve, they'll go berserk and turn on each other if they're kept from leaving for long enough. I just need to incorporate some cage/weapon traps in the design.

[Ratbert_CP]

[...] Who came up with the idea of elves being so environmental?

Environmental?  I'll agree with the "mental" part, but I can't bring myself to see them as some benevolent woodland protector species.  They're vile monopolists of the worst sort.  I mean, they bring you all sorts of wooden goods, but then use the flimsy pretense of protecting the trees to put pressure on anyone trying to move into their wooden "goods" market.  They aren't protecting trees, they're protecting their price gouging!

Think about it.  Trees grow back all the time.  What about your hematite? Gold nuggets? Star sapphires?  Do *they* ever grow back?  THe only rock that replenishes is obsidian, and that's claimed more lives than any war (magma being too darned distracting for many good dwarfs, especially when the booze supply is too close to the magma reservoir...) Personally, I think rocks deserve more "environmental" protection than any tree.

[Psieye]

Elves being highly environmental is at least understandable, even if disagreeable. Get your head around the fact that despite being nature lovers, they're also a-ok with cannibalism and eating other intelligent life. They take issue at hunting down a boar or deer for food but see nothing wrong with hunting down a dwarf or goblin for meat.

[antymattar]

[...] Who came up with the idea of elves being so environmental?

Environmental?  I'll agree with the "mental" part, but I can't bring myself to see them as some benevolent woodland protector species.  They're vile monopolists of the worst sort.  I mean, they bring you all sorts of wooden goods, but then use the flimsy pretense of protecting the trees to put pressure on anyone trying to move into their wooden "goods" market.  They aren't protecting trees, they're protecting their price gouging!

Think about it.  Trees grow back all the time.  What about your hematite? Gold nuggets? Star sapphires?  Do *they* ever grow back?  THe only rock that replenishes is obsidian, and that's claimed more lives than any war (magma being too darned distracting for many good dwarfs, especially when the booze supply is too close to the magma reservoir...) Personally, I think rocks deserve more "environmental" protection than any tree.

That should be sigged if possible.

[Phreak]

Ok people new goal, work on triming down that quote fo use in a sig. Almost completly off topic...