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Author Topic: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves  (Read 1492347 times)

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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #7485 on: November 24, 2021, 05:30:36 pm »

Dear Soldiers of the Small army, Fighters of the community fortress of Smallhands.

While we do prefer our armour to be over a certain quality, in light of the werepig ambush it has come to my attention that some of you are not wearing steel armour despite orders explicitly stating otherwise. These orders have never been changed since steel was produced in this fort.

Look at our latest death for reason why you should wear steel. The werepig couldn't bite through the steel helmet, but did get through the bronze greaves which were earmarked for disposal years ago for this very reason!

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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #7486 on: November 28, 2021, 03:24:35 pm »

Dear Deadseeking Migrants,

Before leaving your cozy mountainhome behind to go to a completely savage, completely uninhabited continent to join the one and only fortress right in the middle of it, maybe get some weapons with you. Now your mangled corpses are in a fortress' graveyard that you were suppose to live in, but never got to see inside of.

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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #7487 on: December 02, 2021, 09:06:36 pm »

Dear Urist McDoctor
We miss you so much mate.
We really could have used you in the first year.
Somehow I think embarking with two doctors would have been a plan.
--The Dwarves of Katimush.
p.s. There are now a lot of aligator sandbags made in your honour. RIP.
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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #7488 on: December 03, 2021, 12:31:56 am »

Dear Urist McDoctor
We miss you so much mate.
We really could have used you in the first year.
Somehow I think embarking with two doctors would have been a plan.
--The Dwarves of Katimush.
p.s. There are now a lot of aligator sandbags made in your honour. RIP.
It's rare to see a Dear Urist without the frustration.

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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #7489 on: December 04, 2021, 08:18:23 am »

Dear Urist McLiason,

Why didn't you tell me that removing the [PET] tag from all the animals would cause no traders to appear? Why did you keep showing up demanding goods if you had no one to trade them? What, can't carry things yourself? Why did you keep asking what I wanted if you had no intention of bringing me goods?

//admittedly, this one is on me, but my attempt to make it so animals wouldn't become pets instead resulted in traders showing up alone with no caravans.
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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #7490 on: December 04, 2021, 05:15:00 pm »

Yup, if you can't tame an animal, you ccan't use it in any sense except as food and clothing, basically.
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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #7491 on: December 19, 2021, 04:38:15 pm »

Dear Urist,
Why did you go into the tunnel seconds after you just dug a channel between the pit of lava and the empty tunnel that leads to a magma forge?
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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #7492 on: December 20, 2021, 03:24:40 am »

Dear Urist,
Why did you go into the tunnel seconds after you just dug a channel between the pit of lava and the empty tunnel that leads to a magma forge?

If the goal is to just power a magma forge you do not need any flow. Use a diagonal breach as it is the safest method. Make only one way into the magma chamber, dig and clear everything you need, then send one miner in to make a diagonal breach;

Code: [Select]
OOOOOO
OOOOMM
OOOOMM
+++XOO
++++OO
++++OO

O = wall
M = magma
+ = floor of you new magma reservoir
X = final wall to dig to start filling reservoir

As long as the last dig is the only job in the chamber you miner will pop down, dig it, and then head off to the next job. The magma will slowly trickle into the chamber with no pressure, so he will have all the time in the world to walk away. It may take a little while for the chamber to fill up enough to power a forge, but you really cannot beat the method in terms of safety.

Now, if you are planning on using the magma for anything else, like pumping, obsidian production or magma falls, this method is not good. Zero pressure means close to zero flow, and that means a very slow fill. But since forges not not actually consume magma this is not a concern.
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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #7493 on: December 20, 2021, 07:03:37 pm »

I don't open the magma floodgates until the area is locked down. To get lava into the floodgates, if it's volcanic, they just need to dig a single tile pit at the mouth of the volcano, and there's no way out but up, so they dig it and leave. My reservoir fills, and I can drain it at need through the floodgates, after locking a lot of doors.
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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #7494 on: December 20, 2021, 10:02:49 pm »

Sometimes the idiots will just stand there, so to decrease that probability I designate a few other tiles to dig right before they finish digging the magma channel. They will usually immediately go to dig one of those other tiles instead of standing in the magma channel. Once they're safe you can cancel the other designation if it's not something you actually wanted to dig.
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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #7495 on: December 20, 2021, 10:49:12 pm »

Foolish bastards!


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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #7496 on: December 21, 2021, 02:25:38 am »

Foolish bastards!



The problem with any of the channeling methods is a channels leaves a ramp behind. This ramp can be used by a dorf to access the other side, by first going down and then back up. If the dorf decides there is a job to do on the other side they can and will use the ramp path in the moment before magma flows into the space. This can obviously end in !!Fun!! for the dorf in question.

The diagonal breach method does not grant any pathing opportunity in the breached square, and even if a stone is produced and the miner decides to pick up that stone for a job the minder usually has the time to grab the stone before the first bit of magma enters the square. In the event there is no stone (which is most of the time) the miner will always choose a path away from the dead-end corner, back towards other jobs.

Now you can get similar pathing setups with a channel by, say, making sure the channel is against a wall, but this takes more setup than a simple diagonal breach, and still means a dorf could decide to grab any produced stone in the channel (and since it is a direct flow instead of a diagonal one the dorf will not have enough time to grab the stone before magma enters the tile).

I think the only way the diagonal breach could be deadly is if you do not have any beds and the miner decides to just sleep there after the digging job is done. So while you can take steps to make a channel breach safe (e.g. turn off all stone related jobs for the miner doing the breach), there is far less management involved in a diagonal breach. Like I said before, the only reason I would ever not use a diagonal breach was if I needed good magma flow, as they are about the slowest way to release magma we have.
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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #7497 on: December 28, 2021, 02:14:48 pm »

Dear Urist,

1) For the love of god, stop fishing and build the fishery already
2) When sent to pull a lever, please don't run up to it, lay down and take a nap next to it first, before pulling it
3) Please place all seeds in bags! Whats with all the seeds everywhere!!

Kind Regards,
Uli
 
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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #7498 on: December 29, 2021, 04:29:15 am »

Foolish bastards!
My foolproof method (well not really mine I read it elsewhere):

Magma channel level.

XXXXXXXXXXM
CCCCCCCCBXM
XXXXXXXXXXM

X=Walls
M=Magma
C=Channel
B=Bridge

On the top level, I have the channel and at the square right before where I intend to breach, I build a bridge after channeling down.  I prefer to use non-magma-safe material for this.  Then I wall off the channel level so nobody can get in.

The breach level.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
UCCCCCCCCCCCRX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

U, Upward staircase
R, Ramp

This is in the z-layer directly below the magma channel.  If you don't like a leftover ramp, I think you can deconstruct the ramp originally present and construct a new one out of non-magma-safe material.  It doesn't matter what direction the hallway comes in so long as the ramp is directly below the bridge.

Now double check and make sure the magma channel is inaccessible.  And designate the X directly to the right of the bridge on the channel level.  Watch as the dwarf goes down to the corridor under the magma channel, stands on the ramp, and digs upward diagonally into where you want to breach.

When he's out, build a floor on the stairwell to keep anyone from going in there.

The channel will fill up, the bridge will melt, and you're done.

If you're really concerned with safety you can build out of magma-safe material but I don't like having the ramp and bridge around.  The dwarf will have plenty of time to get out, though, unless that "idiot dwarf decides to fall asleep" thing happens, so make sure you have enough beds.  Always make sure of that.
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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #7499 on: January 02, 2022, 11:15:53 am »

Dear Hauler Urists;

There are plenty of empty barrels lying around in the furniture stockpiles. Please don't just take the food and drop it on the food stockpile, and instead go take a barrel.

Signed,

Magmacube, your lord and god.
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