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hector13

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Re: Crusader Kings 2 is released.
« Reply #9255 on: January 03, 2016, 09:15:19 pm »

What about kingdom titles?

Meaning: how many do you have?
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« Reply #9256 on: January 03, 2016, 09:24:04 pm »

Once you're an emperor, you can't give kingdoms away fast enough :P
(based on my experience having not played this game since...  Horse Lords came out?  Not for any good reason, just moved on for a while.  But I bet stuff has changed)

Heck I'm still mostly sure my first successful character didn't have any counties toward the end there.  Only Scandinavia, Sweden, and maybe a duchy.  But last I played you certainly couldn't give away your last county, so I'm probably misremembering.

If I did have a county, is was neglected as hell.  But taxes from 7+ kings (or 9 princes?) and a retinue to end worlds meant my dynasty had basically won.
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« Reply #9257 on: January 03, 2016, 09:26:44 pm »

I don't actually like giving away kingdom titles... I basically only do it to avoid going over the vassal cap.

Even then, vice royalties.
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« Reply #9258 on: January 03, 2016, 09:29:36 pm »

I tend to only give away Kingsdom when I can be certain no different race/religion vassals will be present to get up in the new king's business. I delegate stuff so problems don't reach me, if someone else has to clean up a mess I inherited through succession or waging a war that stuck me with people that hate me handing it off to someone else only delays my problems since the AI isn't that good at enforcing compliance among vassals.
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« Reply #9259 on: January 03, 2016, 10:25:20 pm »

I think I was giving the kingdoms out to family, since I tended to be kind to any dynasty members (despite score being a joke).  Especially granting kingdoms to kids, heh.

I think many of them were gradually replaced.  I'd like to believe it was by lords of the local culture, which would be cool.  But since I won these areas through holy war, it was probably disloyal lords of my culture (appointed in desperation by regents of kids).

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« Reply #9260 on: January 04, 2016, 02:33:22 am »

I find vassals do a pretty good job of converting the religion of their subjects.  More vassals usually helps with establishing religious harmony.
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« Reply #9261 on: January 04, 2016, 11:59:02 am »

What about kingdom titles?

Meaning: how many do you have?
I think I only OWN two right now, but presumably when I die my non-primary heirs will magic the other 2 in my De Jure into existence.

The Kingdoms In my De Jure are Sveden, Norway, Finland, and Denmark. And I am exactly one county away from having all De Jure territory of Scandinavia.

Also, Is it weird that my empire's primary source of income is vassal rebellions? :3
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« Reply #9262 on: January 04, 2016, 12:29:12 pm »

What about kingdom titles?

Meaning: how many do you have?
I think I only OWN two right now, but presumably when I die my non-primary heirs will magic the other 2 in my De Jure into existence.

The Kingdoms In my De Jure are Sveden, Norway, Finland, and Denmark. And I am exactly one county away from having all De Jure territory of Scandinavia.

Also, Is it weird that my empire's primary source of income is vassal rebellions? :3

Ah. 'Cause having Kingdom titles pass to all the pretenders... kind of a pain in the ass for a few generations, even moreso if you either lack the diplomacy (or a decent spymaster) to have guys not join factions against you, or the martial ability to field bigger armies. Also, if they rebel, their claims get passed on to their heirs... just extending the annoyance.

This is why, in my most recent game, I have 3 castles in my capital county. Lots of tax and enough levies to deal with most things that happen (albeit only really on the British mainland and Ireland, but whatever :P) though god damn are they expensive to raise.

I've never been into assassinating people (and certainly not close family members!) but you could just murder their council every so often, make sure they aren't all that good until after all the reputation penalties pass.
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« Reply #9263 on: January 04, 2016, 12:38:40 pm »

I've never been into assassinating people (and certainly not close family members!)

This behaviour is not appropriate for a ruler of the dark ages.  ::)
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« Reply #9264 on: January 04, 2016, 12:43:01 pm »

I've never been into assassinating people (and certainly not close family members!)

This behaviour is not appropriate for a ruler of the dark ages.  ::)

Oh don't get me wrong, wholesale murder is fine, I just prefer to do it on the battlefield than hiring others to do it for me. /awesome comeback

Also, that kinslayer trait! There are like... 500+ living members of my dynasty, many of whom are counts/dukes/kings in my empire. No thanks! :P
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« Reply #9265 on: January 04, 2016, 04:44:35 pm »

I've never been into assassinating people (and certainly not close family members!)

This behaviour is not appropriate for a ruler of the dark ages.  ::)

Oh don't get me wrong, wholesale murder is fine, I just prefer to do it on the battlefield than hiring others to do it for me. /awesome comeback

Also, that kinslayer trait! There are like... 500+ living members of my dynasty, many of whom are counts/dukes/kings in my empire. No thanks! :P

Have to agree with that.  I'm quite fond of sending those who hate me the most, dynasty or no, as commanders of my armies.  Let them die honorably in battle, hopefully soon.
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« Reply #9266 on: January 04, 2016, 08:45:38 pm »

Svipjod
If you can't type a certain letter, you're generally supposed to use the closest approximation of the sound (so Svithjod) not the closest approximation of the appearance.
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« Reply #9267 on: January 04, 2016, 08:48:01 pm »

i don't think there's an indication in-game that thorn is pronounced th?

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« Reply #9268 on: January 05, 2016, 12:05:33 am »

Svipjod
If you can't type a certain letter, you're generally supposed to use the closest approximation of the sound (so Svithjod) not the closest approximation of the appearance.
I find that what he used helps me understand what he's talking about better, as it is closer to what I recognize.
However, it's not like I've ever thought of that region as anything but 'the blue bastards up north with the awkward name' so I suppose anything that starts with an 'S' and sounds like a disease works well enough.
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« Reply #9269 on: January 05, 2016, 12:20:09 am »

Also I suspect a number of us have NO idea how it's pronounced and only heard of it from CKII

+1

I always thought of it as Svibjod. Otherwise "that good bit in Sweden".
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