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« Reply #13170 on: February 27, 2018, 04:12:24 am »

... I see it in at least half my games.

In really weird areas.

Particularly memorable was a Holy African Empire.

As in, the AI that formed it used the Kingdom of Africa as template, so the HRE Coat of Arms was based on the African CoA.
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« Reply #13171 on: March 09, 2018, 06:41:21 pm »

send them some of that lucious temple gold.

you get a good amount of it from settlement razing even if you dont actually collect the publicly announced gold for 'razing'.  just capturing a settlement nets gold.

or givem an artifact, which im sure looting got you.

or use your chancellor.  or wed their 7th son to your daughter.

usually France keeps them busy until they gavelkin apart . . .
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« Reply #13172 on: March 09, 2018, 11:34:20 pm »

So I was thinking of going full satan and trying to get the satanic religion going (there is a satanic religion/heresy right? Could of sworn I saw one), and just full my characters with all the evil red traits. Has anyone tried this and how much fun was it? Any fun events?

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« Reply #13173 on: March 09, 2018, 11:55:03 pm »

Sounds familiar, but never seen it myself. Wiki has no info on it, but admits to being out of date.

...Byzantine Emperor was really really clearly a Satanist in one of my games, though. I'd figure if there was an Orthodox equivalent that'd have been the time for it to crop up.
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« Reply #13174 on: March 10, 2018, 12:38:19 am »

There's the Satanic society, but no religion, as far as I know.
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« Reply #13175 on: March 10, 2018, 12:43:37 am »

There's definitely mods for that, though.
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« Reply #13176 on: March 10, 2018, 07:52:06 am »

If the Satanic society is anything like the Hindu equivalent, you will get burdened with unpleasant genetic traits if you engage with it. I think using the powers makes it worse.
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« Reply #13177 on: March 10, 2018, 09:49:30 am »

The Satanist secret society was actually super overpowered at one point. It gives some of the "7 deadly sins traits", but the rewards are pretty powerful, because you have dark magic. They've nerfed it since then, but its still pretty powerful if you don't get caught.
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« Reply #13178 on: March 10, 2018, 12:54:46 pm »

The whole cult mechanic baffles me to be honest.

Its either a)

a sideshow and something to content oneself with instead of trampling over everything (or when your liege says no wars allowed ever)

or b)

a means by which the ai with mess with you and destabilize large parts of your realm/dynasty.


ckii is about taking land via wars.  Running a cult or getting message spammed by a guild is more annoying than not, and when you have 18 children to set education for and 4 different realms you are watching for weakness, and when you are waiting the agonizing 20 days for a response to your 10g ransom demand its easy to accidentally click on and trigger an event.  Its fluff that is fun for a few decades, but demands more attention than it seems to be worth to any top-liege.

And in fact, they are designed to work against the top liege-lord, in the case of satanists or religious cults in general.
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« Reply #13179 on: March 10, 2018, 02:43:40 pm »

tbf the dark healing thing is quite useful for returning the ability to have children. Had it not been for that I'd have lost the game.

Well, the long line of Hazda's that had been running the empire for generations, anyway...
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« Reply #13180 on: March 10, 2018, 05:40:47 pm »

ckii is about taking land via wars.  Running a cult or getting message spammed by a guild is more annoying than not, and when you have 18 children to set education for and 4 different realms you are watching for weakness, and when you are waiting the agonizing 20 days for a response to your 10g ransom demand its easy to accidentally click on and trigger an event.
I think you're confusing CKII with Total War. CK2 is about making stories with a medieval dynasty, and while war is one component, so are strategic marriages, assassinations, and raiding. I enjoy messing around with the societies, although they're a bit overpowered, to painting the map my color one province at a time forever.

Cults help me create the stories I want in my head much more than the constant warfare. And I enjoy that a lot more than painting the map my color.
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« Reply #13181 on: March 11, 2018, 09:35:11 am »

ckii is about taking land via wars.

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« Reply #13182 on: March 11, 2018, 09:38:41 am »

playing ck2 like TW where your only goal is to get land and use that land to become stronger so you can take more land, ad infinitum until the whole world is painted your colour is probbably the least interesting way possible
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« Reply #13183 on: March 11, 2018, 11:04:04 am »

Nah, is great fun.

Also seeing how long you can keep everything owned by de jure leaders before everybody gets greedy. I like seeing the troop numbers go up.
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« Reply #13184 on: March 11, 2018, 11:19:00 am »

I like ironmanning it.

when you lose three kings in quick succession its really hard to keep the empire intact, and if you make multiple top-tier titles you'll lose them easily.

sometimes, the game just has it out for you, and EG is usually more interesting than LG; though midgame can be fun if you manage to bump uglies with a powerhouse empire like France or Byzantium or one of the muzzies, if they are doing well.
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