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Author Topic: Third Party 2 - Game Over: Cult Wins... I guess  (Read 21530 times)

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Re: Third Party 2 - Night 2: Unluck Of The Draw
« Reply #240 on: September 15, 2010, 06:28:01 pm »

GAME OVER! Scatterbrain + Toaster + Pandarsenic win!

That was an unfortunate round of Third Party.
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Re: Third Party 2 - Game Over: Cult Wins... I guess
« Reply #241 on: September 15, 2010, 08:02:41 pm »

That stalemate really screwed the round up. :<
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Re: Third Party 2 - Game Over: Cult Wins... I guess
« Reply #242 on: September 15, 2010, 09:54:00 pm »

That stalemate really screwed the round up. :<
A lot of things screwed this round up.
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Re: Third Party 2 - Game Over: Cult Wins... I guess
« Reply #243 on: September 15, 2010, 10:12:26 pm »

I said earlier I'd give suggestions after the game.  I like the gametype, and it definitely has potential.  This round, however, was broken.

First off, giving everyone an inspect doesn't work, but that's kind of obvious.  Second, I think the game would be better served with role setup closer to the first game, as that could balance out the win cons.  Survivor's a lot easier to win than, say, the townie.  Third, is there another third party to add?  Another player would help avoid stalemates.

I kind of forgot the rest, but I'll think about it.
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Re: Third Party 2 - Game Over: Cult Wins... I guess
« Reply #244 on: September 16, 2010, 04:39:08 am »

hmm. the victory is a hollow one, sadly, as it mostly came down to random chance when nobody only pandar took my offer on. still, thank you for hosting, webadict!

so what's to be done? it's hard to say, really, though it is  disproportionatly easy to win for some (jester, SK) than it is for others (townie), even if this was an exception to the rule. so there's balancing issues. how to fix them... i don't really know, sorry. inspects made sense, but when everyone knew everyone elses roles it just came down to workng out the most logical way to go about things. which wasn't very fun. maybe make a 9th role, a town-ally with cop powers and/or give the mafia ally an inspect (or just make him a mafia cop) instead?
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Re: Third Party 2 - Game Over: Cult Wins... I guess
« Reply #245 on: September 16, 2010, 04:47:35 am »

In hindsight, if I had known that the decision was both going to be among all players AND not count as a lynch, I would of jumped ship and voted with the cult.

I think we can all agree that giving the sk an inspect was totally unneeded. It's already the best role. Mafioso is a very close second, so they also don't need an inspect. The cult, too, doesn't need an inspection. All three roles have an inbuilt method for finding out another player's role already anyways. Jester and Lyncher don't care about the other player's roles. They already know what they're trying to do and want to do it ASAP. That leaves us with only giving inspections to the mafia-ally, townie, and survivor. Survivor would otherwise be a good role that might need an inspection, but it's actually already a very powerful role in this setup, so I think no inspection is needed.

Add a second mafia faction, call em werewolves. Boom, problem solved.
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Re: Third Party 2 - Game Over: Cult Wins... I guess
« Reply #246 on: September 16, 2010, 05:15:45 am »

Add a second mafia faction, call em werewolves. Boom, problem solved.

Dude, it's already hard enough for the townie D:

Also, I would say the Mafia has it better than the SK - it's almost identical, but has the mafia-ally on its side.

Speaking of which, Mafia-Ally is a stupidly easy role to win with. You can win as a sole survivor, with the Mafia (dead or not), with the Cult if you're recruited, and you have the Mafia on your side.
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